kulo

are 98 spec same as ek9 cams?

what specs are on the 96 spec cams

DDTECH

yes

Teamdiesel

NO! the 98 spec itr cams are the exact same as the 96 itr cams. The 00' itr cams are the same as the ctr cams though.

thundernoodle

The 98+ specs have 3 degrees more on the Intake

kulo

the same as ek9 cams?

DDTECH

yall retarded?

98+ itr cams are the same as the ctr's
the 96 spec are 2 degrees smaller, it wont make a lick of difference in power.

use w/e you have thats the cheapest for you.

kulo

96 spec cams are cheaper than ek9 cams
what 1s should i get for my gsr with bolt ons
stock cr,bore

DDTECH

dude, get whatever is cheaper.

they are oem cams, your not going to make a ton of whp off of them
no matter what anyone tells you on here. They are all basically the same cam, with a tiny tiny bit of duration / lift varablitiy.. there's nothing that would make a drastic change.. Get w/e is ezer on your pockets.

kulo

i found some 98 spec cams with 40k miles on them with dual valve springs and retainers for
$340 shipped

i was thinking of getting this ebay nippon racing p73 itr piston kit

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ITR-P...Q5fAccessories

anyone heard of this kit before?

all-mtr-teg

You can get the same parts for less,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-01...=p4506.c0.m245

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

kulo

but it says in the pic 96 and 98 spec are same? 95-00
some one said 98 spec and ek9 cams are the same :S

DDTECH

you realize the pic you just posted, shows how to tell the different at the dizzy end of the cam, for each cam listed.

The ends are different.. look at the ends of the dizzy side.. its telling you to look for these when buying these cams to make sure they are real.
Like i told you before.. 98+spec are the same as ctr's.
pre 98 spec are a tiny, tiny bit smaller but it wont effect power level...

kulo

ok
shall i get type r valve springs and retainers aswell
and raise rev limit to about 8500rpm?

00Red_SiR

sure.

DDTECH

I concur.

Alot of people do different setups to allow the cars to ultilize the power of the type-r cams.
Most people take their gsr springs.. which have dual on the intake, and single on the exhaust and just put another set of intakes on the exhaust so your running dual valvesprings.
But i'd not worry about the hassle and just get the type-r valvetrain. The valvetrain is good to 8500rpms and you shouldn't float a valve.

hmoobhero

this is correct. sorry ALL MOTOR you are wrong. 96-98 itr cams are the same, 00-01 itr cams are the same as ctr cams. research more about them and you'll find out that i'm right.

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=371

DDTECH

dude.. in the end.. you'll make the same power.. doesn't matter..

hmoobhero

ugh no. ctr cams will make more power. why did you think honda gave them alil more duration...plus, there was a thread comparing the two cams. guess what...ctr cams made more power than 96-98 itr cams. i tried looking for it but cant find it. not trying to prove you wrong or anything just letting the OP and everyone else know.

komat

heres the spec

USDM GSR
Intake lift 10.6mm, duration 230
Exhaust lift 9.4mm, duration 227

1997-1999 USDM ITR
Intake lift 11.5mm, duration 240
Exhaust lift 10.5mm, duration 235
CTR
Intake lift 11.5mm, duration 243
Exhaust lift 10.5mm, duration 235

all-mtr-teg

3 more degrees of duration isn't significant. If it was, why don't 00-01 ITR make more power than 97-98 ITR? They both make 195 bhp. Ask any real builder/tuner w/ experience, they will tell you the same.

DDTECH

in the end.. youll make the same .. ****en power..

all-mtr-teg

Truth, my buddy got tricked into swapping his 98 ITR cams out of his 95 del sol for some CTR cams plus $100 cash because the CTR would supposedly give him 5-7hp gains, he didn't gain $hit except a lighter wallet.

hmoobhero

were they real ctr cams? any before and after dyno? plus, your friend is stupid to believe that ctr cams will gain 5-7hp over itr w/out any tuning.

itr to ctr cams is not a big difference but there is a difference. ctr cams will have a higher powerband than itr. read this thread so you can understand.

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...p?ArticleID=51

DDTECH

so because Teamintegra said it, it must be true right??

I guess us guys who build and tune motors dont know what we're talking about..

thx for clearing that up mang.

Top Ramen

I still don't understand the logic of buying used ITR/CTR cams when you can buy aftermarket stage 1 or stage 2 cams for about the same money and make more power. Buy a used set of Skunk2 Tuner 1s or 2s or used BC3+ if you are going to upgrade your valve train anyway. Any of them will out perform CTR cams.