CHILIBEANZ

170whp stock wow, i only managed to get 176whp with intake,exhaust&testpipe. it was 100+degrees though. oh well i'm turbo now much better numbers.

sjracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MI4BUILT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah they dyno 170 stock...but i did 165 on a mustang dyno and i know they read lower than a dynojet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, the range for a type S is around 165-175 whp stock. I've seen a stock Type S hit 185 whp before on a dyno jet. Now that's was not a norm, that's for sure.

flying

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sjracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Once you lower the DC5 chassis, you'll know how much trouble you'll run into. Tie rod adjustment/awkward angle problems, a whole lot of bump steer, and the lack of a nice camber curve.
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I went with the Mugen Sport Suspension & have no problems. No bump steer or awkward angles. I guess it made a difference that Mugen built it specifically for the RSX/DC5

I agree though that the stock suspension was nothing to cheer about & I am really pleased with the improvement the Mugens made.

sjracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flying &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I went with the Mugen Sport Suspension & have no problems. No bump steer or awkward angles. I guess it made a difference that Mugen built it specifically for the RSX/DC5

I agree though that the stock suspension was nothing to cheer about & I am really pleased with the improvement the Mugens made.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The mugen SS is a nice kit. The suspension problems all occur after a certain ride height. The Mugen Sport Suspension only drops the RSX 1.3-1.4". I would say around a 1.7-2", or more, drop on the RSX, with the use of front camber plates dialed in to about 1.5 degree or more of negative camber, then you'll run out of tie rod adjustments. The awkward angle of the tie rods will also not appear until that range in ride height. The lower you go, the worst it gets.

I thought the Mugen kit was designed to keep bump steer to a minimal, which according to you is true. Other suspension systems that are "designed" to work on the DC5 chassis do also show the "lowering problems" with the DC5. The problems are dependent on ride height.

MI4eg

i think i would dyno about 183whp on a dyno jet...my baby is pretty strong..

HotDC5

I know of a RSX running 12's with just a bolt on turbo kit and many in the 13's with bolt ons

Dveloped

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HotDC5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know of a RSX running 12's with just a bolt on turbo kit and many in the 13's with bolt ons</TD></TR></TABLE>
lmao

HotDC5

electric, you don't believe me go over to club rsx, there is a guy doing exactly what i said

HotDC5

the guy has a bolt on turbo kit, slicks, an exhaust, and a clutch, thats about it

Dveloped

no i believe you.... its just you said turbo... you can go 11's with a bolt on turbo kit... and slicks...

DC5ITR329

OK I've owned the RSX Type S since the 1st day it came out. I had it in 01 of aug. The suspension setup is new. People are always ofraid of new things. If you sit in a reg RSX S and take turns with it, honesty even though it was a highly rated car the suspension just sux. I have barely any suspension done. All I have is mugen bars and an ITR rear sway bar. It made a world of difference. Another thing about all RSX is that the tires that come with the car suck.

If you guys paid attention to EP3s and RSXs you will notice that the RSX is a wider car. So it's going to turn a little better. But I've beaten alot of cars when my car was stock. Now all I have to do is beat G35s and 350z. haha.

Moral of the story setup the suspension correctly. Don't just slam your car. It will drive like shiet. I've driven the mugen sport suspension and I can say that thing is awesome and worth the 1000 bucks for it. I have also built a eg to full Type r status with the 5 lug, ITR sway bars, and Tein Type Flex. So If anyone has questions about the DC5, DC2, EGs. you can ask me. I'm DC5ITR329 on AOL.

flying

Yeah I agree about the Mugen Sports.
I have them & it is like night & day. It turns a good car into a great car. Made it a real sports car. I have nothing bad to say about it & I agree it is the best $$ spent
on this car.

spoonfedGSR

aznbo1626.. you say the mugen sport suspension is a world of difference for the DC5 chassis. Do you think this is better than the TEIN suspension you have in your eg? obviously you cant say which is better because both are different cars, but how would they compare? everyone knows how TEIN is reknowned for their set up, but do you think its really worth it? i got some other questions too... ill IM you on AIM. thanks

DC5ITR329

If you read what I said I said with minor mods you can make a world of difference. But I said the Mugen suspension is nice. Tein is known for the suspension. **** thats all they do. But understand that the best suspension can be the crappiest with out correct setting. That why you can't really compare the mugen sport and the Tein Type Flex. Mugens are unadjustable. Teins are. If you want to compare somethin, make sure they are similar. Like compare Motons and Teins.


Modified by aznbo1626 at 9:36 AM 1/2/2004

may

a gsr cant beat the rsx-s no way..i cream them like the civic sir with out having to rush or pay 2 much attention to my shifting..

i have yet to take hazards from the itr and i can say the itr gets owned every single time i race one..on the highway it was just sad how bad i was pulling on him..light to light the itr gets me in first gear all the time but as soon as i get it in 2nd i pull gear for gear!


i have yet to take hazards from any itr or gsr(gotta be joking me my friends gsr has i/h/e and i still kill him like nothing..lol)

fireDC5

yep GSRs are no problem

ep3hatchblack

You are all so ****** arrogant here when you say that there is no stock RSX Type S Running 14.3 quarters. You are all a bunch of magazine racers who say that ****... Until you know for sure it hasnt been done, shut the **** up.... Go to clubrsx.com then learn, then speak, and btw this site has been so filled with BS comments and stupid threads i havent been to this site in over 4 months, get some knowledge, and be more open to listening and then maybe some more people will actually have worth wild threads.... BTW sorry to post this to those of you who actually had info to give like the specs, and gearing etc...

ep3hatchblack

PS: GSR's GET SMOKED BY RSX S.... DONT GET SAD IF YOU HAVE A GSR AND YOU ARE BIASED TO SAY IT WILL WIN BECUZ IT WONT, JUST LIKE I CANT BEAT A RSX S STOCK FOR STOCK IN AN EP3.... ITS JUST THE WAY IT IS! I'm kinda bitchy today sorry, but i wish some worth wild topics were found here more often

GreenR

THey are as fast as your pockets are deep. YOu can make any car fast with the right amount of money.

ClubRSX has many of the same members as H-T.
THe RSX has great potential, as does the EP3 (civic Si) you will see alot of quick cars with K-series motors coming from Nu Image Autosports including an
RSX-S

ep3hatchblack

I totally agree...... K Series Potential is insane, and yeah i have been seeing some insane numbers from both the rsx and the ep3..

sjracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ep3hatchblack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are all so ****** arrogant here when you say that there is no stock RSX Type S Running 14.3 quarters. You are all a bunch of magazine racers who say that ****... Until you know for sure it hasnt been done, shut the **** up.... Go to clubrsx.com then learn, then speak, and btw this site has been so filled with BS comments and stupid threads i havent been to this site in over 4 months, get some knowledge, and be more open to listening and then maybe some more people will actually have worth wild threads.... BTW sorry to post this to those of you who actually had info to give like the specs, and gearing etc...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm a frequent member on clubrsx and i have yet to see a thread about a fully stock RSX Type S run close to a 14.3. MmmmotorNutz ran a 14.3 with an Ice box, hondata, and Azenis. I would not consider that fully stock. Don't get me wrong, i have a Type S myself, and if someone was to run a 14.3 BONE stock, i would be pretty proud of the car.

Maybe i just somehow over looked the thread. If you can find it, IM it to me over here or PM it to me over at clubrsx. My user name is the same.

may

if you check out montrealracing.com there is a list of fast cars with pics and in them you'll find a stock black rsx-s with stock tires that ran 14.2 with i/e it all comes down to weather and driver..track times can change from one day to another and there is another member that has pulled back to back 14.3 with i/h/e so guys lets not fight over it!

i seen kids with rsx-s run 15.4(he's best of the day)

sjracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by may &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you check out montrealracing.com there is a list of fast cars with pics and in them you'll find a stock black rsx-s with stock tires that ran 14.2 with i/e it all comes down to weather and driver..track times can change from one day to another and there is another member that has pulled back to back 14.3 with i/h/e so guys lets not fight over it!

i seen kids with rsx-s run 15.4(he's best of the day) </TD></TR></TABLE>

May, that's not considered stock then. My definition of fully stock is, "how it comes out from the factory." In and out would fall under the category of "slightly tuned," not fully stock.

kryzeofkrayzie

I love the way the k series responds to mods, they are so much more potent than the b series, but the suspension setup stock for stock is a joke. The body roll stock is simply horrid, and those tires are horrendous for a 23k vehicle. I'm on a subtle drop w/ stock shocks and sticky tires, and I still think the car handles like crap... way too much body roll, especially compared to the dc2 r, but from what my friends tell me, sway bars up front and up rear will correct that porblem.

sjracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kryzeofkrayzie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the way the k series responds to mods, they are so much more potent than the b series, but the suspension setup stock for stock is a joke. The body roll stock is simply horrid, and those tires are horrendous for a 23k vehicle. I'm on a subtle drop w/ stock shocks and sticky tires, and I still think the car handles like crap... way too much body roll, especially compared to the dc2 r, but from what my friends tell me, sway bars up front and up rear will correct that porblem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget the extra weight that plays a huge factor when comparing the DC2 to the DC5 in the handling department, aside from the lack of a front camber curve. Forget about the front sway bar and just upgrade your rear bar. You will notice a huge improvement. I sure did.

With normal lowering springs, since they are more designed for ride comfort and looks for street use, the spring rate is still pretty much on the soft side. That is why you barely notice a difference in body roll when compared to the DC5's fully stock suspension. I'm running 500lb/in spring rated springs up front and 600lb/in spring rated rear springs on aftermarket struts and a 22mm solid rear Progress sway bar on my Type S right now. The handling characteristic changed quite drastically over stock. (It's a good thing. )