johnclaunch

I bought my car six months used and it was stock. It had Honda MTF in it and I changed it to Redline MTL. The Redline was great. I never had any grind issues and it really made the tranny shift smoothly. When it would go into a gear, it slid in very easily without feeling the gears mesh. I just switched the fluid out this time with Honda MTF. Now, I feel every gear go in and mesh together with the shaft. No grinds, but much more harsh than with the Redline I used prior. Any ideas? I don't like it and I will switch back ASAP, but does anyone know if this is normal feel for a tranny with Honda MTF?

hawaiiancb74

honda doesnt even use honda fluid.. for the rsx they typicaly will put a syncromesh in to help prevent grinding. i would sugest you put RoyalPurple or amsoil back in it.

blueshark123

GM Syncromesh with friciton modifiers ftw

1986

Old mtf sucks, new one is a bit better but i am still not too fond of it. I use GM syncromesh personally. Amsoil is good too

Todd00

You tried the new Honda MTF? It's supposed to be better than the original stuff. It's now made by Idemitsu.

eMpAtHy

i need to decide on something to use. i have 20k miles on my car and my tranny is starting to act up. Shifting at 4000 with the clutch pedal down all the way and it'll be real rough getting into 2nd gear sometimes.

WyldRice

Honda MTF doesn't suck -at least to my car! She LOVES IT!
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My gears were grinding so bad at 45K, i thought i needed new synchros...
but i used the new HONDA MTF when i changed mine- and NO MORE GRINDS!

Here's a link- i did a DIY write up about it.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2155139
i changed it before Thanksgiving... and i still haven't had any grinding,
and YES! ...it has been -20 BELOW (or colder ) many times this last months.
No issues Yet!

i still do the "1,2,3,4,3,2,1,2,3,4,3,2,1" trick... (damn voo-doo rituals!)

Demonis

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That's retarded to even say. HONDA uses HONDA MTF... Just because some DEALERS don't, doesn't speak for the whole company. The NEW Honda MTF is a lot better and many people are saying good things about it. I like it, I swapped mine and it seems a little better. To each his own.

johnclaunch

I don't know if it was the "new" MTF, but it had a green label.

Todd00

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It'll say Idemitsu on it.

johnclaunch

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It'll say Idemitsu on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't check it before I trashed it.

black92DA

the old honda mtf has a red cap and the new one has a white cap

johnclaunch

Back to Redline MTL! Great stuff. I highly recommend.

mormonboy

edit:

did you guys use redline MTF or redline MT-90 ( slightly thicker than regular mtf)


Modified by mormonboy at 12:00 AM 3/4/2008

johnclaunch

I just use the MTL. I once mixed one quart MTL and one quart MT-90, but I noticed no difference from just MTL. Redline states that the MTL is a direct replacement for Honda fluid, so I just use it alone.

BlownSi05

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he speaks the truth. expensive, but very much worth it.

khmerboiracer

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he speaks the truth. expensive, but very much worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i second that..i got mine for 6 bucks a quart..i work a dealership. gm syncro works great.

mormonboy

i read somewhere that GM synchromesh as well as the friction modified versions r discontinued.

can you confirm that?

khmerboiracer

if it were true...amsoil makes the equivalent to the syncromesh..but its not i just bought some.

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtf.aspx

dfwjohnd

new honda mtf &gt; insert brand here

johnclaunch

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I disagree.

DC5ITR329

I had the oil and new honda oil. New one is much better. From me.

thrty8street

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My honda MTF works great, no complains here.