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Old 01-03-2009, 08:50 PM
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Hey guys

As for some of us who live in area where it can get quite cold... or very cold... there has been something that has been bothering me very much about the EP3's defrost mode the A/C comes on all the time! Now when it rains it makes sense to put the A/C on in defrost mode but when its cold out side I find it a little useless to have to have the A/C on!

So after alot of searching and reading I found out how to bypass this automatic system.

All you need is 2 fingers and a key lol...

#1. When you get in your call turn the ventilation mode ****, temp **** and fan **** all to the left. So your vent mode **** should be blowing to your face, temp **** should be all the way in the blue and fan should be at OFF.

#2. Put your key in the ignition.

#3. Take 2 fingers and press the Recirculation button and A/C button and hold.

#4. Start the car and keep holding the Recirculation and A/C button.

#5. After about 7 secondes you should see the Recirculation button light flashing... keep holding for a few more secondes and you will see the A/C button light up.

#6. Once that is done you are done! When you put the **** in defrost mode the A/C light will still come on automatically but you can now turn it off by clicking the A/C button.


I got this off of Ephatch.com, I figured it would good to put it here because it took me a while to find it and Ephatch.com does work as good as it use too!

Maybe this could get stickied?
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Does this actually work? I have got to try it. I noticed the compressor comes on which in turn seems to make my gas mileage suck while using the defroster. I guess I'll see what happens...
Old 01-04-2009, 11:08 AM
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Yes this does work. It's a factory way to bypass the compressor that honda never released to the public.
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So it makes it so the A/C compressor won't turn on with the defroster unless you manually push the button? My A/C light doesn't come on when I have it in defrost mode but I can hear the clutch engage.
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Ok. I tried it. It works!

My vote is for a lock and sticky!
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thanks guys!
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x3 for a sticky. I don't like the fact that the a/c compressor is putting extra load on a cold crank/bearings when I'm trying to defrost my windshield
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been waiting for this.
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If you have air-conditioning in your car the best and fastest solution is to turn it on and set it to the windscreen outlets. Air-conditioners cool your car on a hot day by removing water vapour from the air inside the car, which reduces the temperature of the air. So operating your air-conditioner will immediately start removing water vapour from your car on a cold morning too, so that your warm, moist breath will disperse into the air inside the car rather than condensing on the windscreen.

Turning the air-conditioner up high for a little while and directing it through the windscreen vents will also evaporate the water condensed on your windscreen.

Many drivers, particularly women who feel the cold, will press the 'demist' button on their dashboard and then suddenly stab at the air-conditioning controls to turn off the rush of cold air they weren't expecting. Do that and you're actually working against yourself.

If you don't like the cold, dry air blowing on you from the air vents, turn off the vents facing you, point them at the side windows (which will start demisting the side windows) or try this: turn up the heat on the temperature control.

Because we're so used to thinking of air-conditioning as a way to cool things down, many drivers aren't aware that their air-conditioner is also capable of producing hot, dry air. It most certainly can, and this warm, dry air is just about the nicest way to face a cold, wet drive to work, as it'll also start drying out the rain your clothes absorbed on the run to the car.
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true but when the car is fully warm I don't need to have the a/c on because its not doing anything
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I wonder if this works for the DC5?
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Hmm.. I don't think my A/C comes on when I'm defrosting atleast not the light, I'll have to check and BTW good find.
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I am not sure if it works for the DC5 but you should try it and let me know and Ill change the title to include the DC5 also...
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works
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Originally Posted by josh's ep3
Hmm.. I don't think my A/C comes on when I'm defrosting atleast not the light, I'll have to check and BTW good find.
The light doesn't come on, but you can definitely feel the a/c compressor kick on. And my butt dyno notices the extra lag in power.
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Yeah. My light never came on either, but I could feel it kick in. And it drove like the A/C was on too which I hated cause the RPMs drop faster and it just sucks. NOw the light DOES come on since I have done this to my car but I just turn it off. Awesome thread.
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If I ever read or see something that cause benefit us all don't worry I'll post it up...

But I am trying to get this stickied but it seems like Todd hasn't been on in the pass couple of days???
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Yeah, bump for Sticky.

So when I start my car in the morining and put on the defroster for the wind shield, the A/C is on even if the lights not on?
If so that would effing suck because I always have the heat on set at either the defrost or the defrost and foot setting.
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no it shouldn't be on period anymore unless you put it on yourself!
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Oh, ok because that would be crap haha. I'm gonna double check to be sure haha. So the way yours was before you did this was, it had the A/C light on whenever you were in defrost mode?
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Did people not read my post?

Just because the A/C is on, doesn't mean that it causing cold air to blow out. Obviously you have to let you car warm up. Try it out yourself, once you are driving and your car is fully warmed up, put on the A/C and set the air on hot, see at what temp the air comes out.

The A/C actually takes the moisture out of the air and off of your windows so they defog. Don't you think Honda (and many other car manufacturers) thought this out carefully? Do you honostly think you are smarter than Honda?

Just let the windows defog and then turn off the A/C manually.
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Originally Posted by YoMattYo
Did people not read my post?

Just because the A/C is on, doesn't mean that it causing cold air to blow out. Obviously you have to let you car warm up. Try it out yourself, once you are driving and your car is fully warmed up, put on the A/C and set the air on hot, see at what temp the air comes out.

The A/C actually takes the moisture out of the air and off of your windows so they defog. Don't you think Honda (and many other car manufacturers) thought this out carefully? Do you honostly think you are smarter than Honda?

Just let the windows defog and then turn off the A/C manually.
Ok, good point I believe you. Serious question though, why would they create a way for you to override it? I'm not trying to be a douche but you seem pretty knowledgable.
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Oh ok, I didn't read the first post correctly. In my Accord, you can just turn off the A/C when in defrost mode by pressing the A/C button.

I didn't realize you had to go through this procedure to be able to turn off the A/C. There is a good reason for be able to turn if off: once your windows are defogged, you can turn off the A/C to save gas and gain performance since the A/C components won't be running.

The point I was trying to make earlier, is that you should let your A/C help defog the windows when you first put your climate control in defog mode, and then turn it off.
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Originally Posted by josh's ep3
Oh, ok because that would be crap haha. I'm gonna double check to be sure haha. So the way yours was before you did this was, it had the A/C light on whenever you were in defrost mode?
Ya defrost was on all the time and I couldn't take it off...


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