chippychops

My buddies 2002 RSX engine blew with 12,000 miles on it. We were driving and it just shut down and we coasted to a stop. Honda denied the warranty claim as they say it was a result of over-reving. I was in the car and there was no over-reving, it just shut down. Honda let a dealer take apart the engine and their mechanic said that there are clear signs that the engine was over-reved. What would these signs be? What could have caused the engine to blow if there was no over-reving?

dacaveman

What mods did he have? Do you mean an acura dealer? Did he mis shift? Do you have any more details? Try to take it to another dealer.

chippychops

I do not think he mis-shifted. I did not hear any high reving. The car just shut down and then coasted to a stop. I think it was in nuetral when it shut down and he could not get it into gear when it shut down. He is suing for the repairs which they claim will cost 10-15K. Would the transmission also go if there was over-reving?

TrueZen

Welcome to the club. I'm hopefully going to be getting my RSX back in a couple days. I know that mine was a mis-shift that blew the engine though. Good luck.

GreenBean

More info please....Like was the Check Engine Light on? Did the low oil light some on? How fast was he going?

From the sound of the price he was quoting an engine and transmission...Warranty pays @7-8,000 for a new short block asembly and head assembly...When under warranty...Wich dealer has the vehicle?

dwnshft02

Thats strange they won't replace it.Everyone that I have heard this has happened to got a new engine.They replaced mine when it happened and I had aftermarket parts on the motor.

dwnshft02

They did stress this was a one time only deal.Happens again your screwed.

TrueZen

One time only? I didn't even get a one time!

GreenBean

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Thats usually how it happens, Acura will pay for the first one, after that, you pay

Gerhard_001

I am more inclined to disbelieve the fact that your friend was just putting around in his car. All the delaer has to do is scan the ECU which will record an overrev and have a freeze frame of what RPM it was revved to. Have your friend take his car to every acura dealer and see if he can get it warrantied just have your friend tell the dealer he misshifted.

GreenBean

Honesty helps all the time...

We had a guy that had a tranny that lost part of a gear tooth on the diff, It was in an MDX also. Well he tells Client Services that he has never missed a service at our dealer...They call and try and verify this and he has never had a service done at our place...He did buy it from us...So they chose to pay for the tranny, @2,800 and he was to pay the labor @700...In the long run.....If he had told the truth to begin with, Acura said they would have covered the whole thing...
BTW he only had 68,000 miles on it and not one transmission fluid service yet.

B00STidDc5

my tranny went out twice already... the first time Acura of Serramonte rebuilt it b/c of the 2nd gear grind and some problem with 1st and said to take it easy... trhey were always trying to say that i was racing it, but could never prove **** so all that was just talk... 2nd time the rest of my gears started to go out and act funny... like i could shift gears without the clutch... or i could start to put it into any gear 3-R and i could actually put it into the gear almost half way b4 the car died??? friggin weird... it finally broke 7000 miles later, and when i say broke, i mean it ****** shattered... got stuck in 3rd gear so i took it oer there and got a new tranny but they said no more tranny work would be done... maybe b/c 3rd time i wouldnt need a tranny, id need a new car (lemon law)... funny thing is talking with another dealer i was told that the tranny should have been replaced the first time also... and another note, they also put in my aftermarket ACT street clutch kit @ the first rebuild... im now beginning to have trouble with the tranny again... its annoying that all the stuff breaking on my car has nothing to do with my mods... and even more so those ***** at serramonte acura are quick to point out that it is the mods fault, when it is highly illegal to even tell me that... Im just glad my engine hasnt gone out yet b/c if any other major thing breaks i want a new car hands down... Knock on wood that nothing ever breaks again!!!

Steve26

Just because when you were in the car, he wasn't over reving it or having any mis-shifts doesn't mean it never happened...

eg360B

Damn I have been hearing alot of Rsx engine failures.
My bro had a type S bout it with 0 miles in 2002 (red). After only 20k or more miles it started burning Oil. He thinks it might have been cause of the Oil filter he had. He had a Cold Air AEM witch was a bitch to install. windshield wipper fluid.
Well he kept taking it to the dealer and they gave him a new one with zero miles on it because he took it more than three times for the same problem. (Lemon Law)
This happend more than a year ago but nothing went wrong with this RSX.

anjapower

a question for those of you who were able to get warranty coverage: (I am currently in the same boat..awaiting verdict as to whether it will be covered or not). Is the decision to cover the repairs made by the service manager of the respective dealership or HOA/AOA?

If it is indeed made by HOA, is there a $ cutoff point, where warranty coverage decisions are delegated by HOA only? For example, I was able to get a new seat cover w/o dealing with HOA, but for engine repairs, I'm being told that we need HOA's approval?

jspec rsx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anjapower &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a question for those of you who were able to get warranty coverage: (I am currently in the same boat..awaiting verdict as to whether it will be covered or not). Is the decision to cover the repairs made by the service manager of the respective dealership or HOA/AOA?

If it is indeed made by HOA, is there a $ cutoff point, where warranty coverage decisions are delegated by HOA only? For example, I was able to get a new seat cover w/o dealing with HOA, but for engine repairs, I'm being told that we need HOA's approval?</TD></TR></TABLE>


The final decision on which to pay for the repairs, in this case is not warranty, it's call "GOOD WILL REPAIR" is on HOA/AOA. The Service Manager can advise HOA/AOA to either provide assitance or deny assitance which therefore, the decision of how much to assist with the repairs, for mine they paid for all of it labor/parts for some the dealer only pays for the parts and owner pays for the labor. Each situation is a case by case basis

dwnshft02

Yea they paid for my parts and labor too.It really comes down to if they believe your story or not.They can tell how fast you were going and the revs.So there is nothing to do but tell the truth.I'm not calling anybody a liar but I hope they can help you.

ZTYPE_S

ok...I have a 2003 rsx-s with inly 12k miles on it, took it to the track on night when I miss shifted from 3rd t o2cdn, very common in this car. took it to the dealer and they told me that the car was over reved, way over 9k rpm. i said "yeah I know can you fix it for me"? they said SURE it'll be 2,000$$ I said ok "BYE"!! took it to autolink in temple city where I got hooked up for a good price. one thing aboout this car is that I think the gear ratio is way too close and miss shift always happen, its nothin gnew to the dealers, they fix about 5 to 10 cars a week for the same *** problem.

GreenR

Everyone keeps talking about the gears being too close, but the real problem is that you can't shift a cable tranny like you can a hydraulic tranny especially at higher RPM's. If you think that the RSX gears are too close, try driving an NSX.
Maybe everyone including myself should practice before you jump out there on the track and try to blame Honda for bad engineering.


Modified by GreenR at 1:08 PM 2/12/2004

oldB18EF

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gerhard_001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am more inclined to disbelieve the fact that your friend was just putting around in his car. All the delaer has to do is scan the ECU which will record an overrev and have a freeze frame of what RPM it was revved to. Have your friend take his car to every acura dealer and see if he can get it warrantied just have your friend tell the dealer he misshifted. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true....just helps to be honest with the dealer and usually theyll let the first one go

DLB1994

was it a type s that blown

Duster

yikes thats a huge list of people complaining about problems with the RSX just on this forum, thats funny cause i test drove an RSX-S and a celica GTS 2 days ago and i wasn't impressed with either of them so i opted not to buy either. kinda glad i didn't go with the rsx now , thats scary

Archidictus

Idiots shifting like Mario Andretti and high-compression performance engines don't mix well, now do they? People like to point a lot of fingers at the RSX-S like it's the car's fault that moron teenage drivers are trying to drive beyond their ability and destroying their precision drivetrains.

There's nothing faulty about the car, beyond the recalled synchro, and the misshifting and valve-bending antics of the younger drivers should be disregarded when looking into the purchase of said automobile.

EtherGhost

Does the ECU only record the top RPM achieved? If you've hit the rev limiter a few times (ok, more than a few ), but never over-revved through a misshift, will the ECU record all the times that you hit the rev limiter, or just the fact that you revved all the way up there?

krystar

it's supposed to only record overrev. as in &gt; 8100. problem is, it doesn't record WHEN the overrev happened. it could be that someone test drove your car before you bought it and misshifted but nothing ever happened.