John Z

i know this isnt really typer related but i dont really post anywhere else.

my 98r is running a obd1 computer cant pass obd2 test. now to renew your reg you have to have a valid inspection. mine expired in feb.
so i was wondering if anyone has tried turning in your plates etc and then registering the car again like you took it off the road. i know you have to pay the fees again but would this work?

RTW DC2R

you still have to get inspected so how is that going to be any different?

John Z

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you still have to get inspected so how is that going to be any different? </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not worried about inspection im worried about registration...

only time i really drive the car is to track events and maybe on a weekend. if i get pulled over and they see an inspection expired i get an expensive ticket, if i get pulled over and they see an unregistered car i think thats considered more serious n maybe(idk) lead to getting impounded?

JjuuN R

Sorry I can't help, but I just wanted to say my car has NEVER been inspected the 7 years I've had it registered here. I feel bad for a lot of you guys and what you have to go through just to legally drive.

nsxtasy

It sounds like you're asking how to break the law.

John Z

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It sounds like you're asking how to break the law.
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actually it would be considered a loophole

breaking the law would be me driving an unregistered car

its this OR i register the car in SC, but do i need to have a SC license too?

nsxtasy

If you live in NY and you drive an unregistered car on the street, you're breaking the law.

If you live in NY and you register your car in SC, you're breaking the law.

Your legal options are to restore OBD2 on the car, or to use the car for off-road use only.

Spoon ITR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you live in NY and you drive an unregistered car on the street, you're breaking the law.

If you live in NY and you register your car in SC, you're breaking the law.

Your legal options are to restore OBD2 on the car, or to use the car for off-road use only.
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I've seen people that live in NY that have their cars registered in different states stating it's OK because that's where their family lives.

BlueR

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John, call me...

i'll take care of it

nsxtasy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spoon ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've seen people that live in NY that have their cars registered in different states stating it's OK because that's where their family lives.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They can say that. It's just not true.

What they're really saying is, they can break the law and get away with it.

KayOs

install the original ECU and get inspected. Upon completion, re-install your OBD1 ECU.

Spoon ITR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They can say that. It's just not true.

What they're really saying is, they can break the law and get away with it.
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I know it isn't. I've heard it's cheaper insurance and all that other B.S. from them.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KayOs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">install the original ECU and get inspected. Upon completion, re-install your OBD1 ECU. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the easiest way to go. Just make sure the CEL won't come on when you go back to OBD2

sheekdude

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this isnt really typer related but i dont really post anywhere else.

my 98r is running a obd1 computer cant pass obd2 test. now to renew your reg you have to have a valid inspection. mine expired in feb.
so i was wondering if anyone has tried turning in your plates etc and then registering the car again like you took it off the road. i know you have to pay the fees again but would this work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Being that i have first hand experience with this i can tell you that if you turn in your plates to the nysdmv, then try to get it registered you'll be in for the surprize of your life. You have a registration block so if you try to get it re-registered anywhere in NY, you'll have to do it before they give you plates. They'll tell you to have it towed and when you pass the inspection, it clears in the nydmv system.

They had the new emission system updated last month so all those people running obd1 ecus in obd2 cars with ny registrations will have a problem. From what i've heard, the only way to beat the system is to have someone with an itr thats can pass the emissions go with you, let them scan your registration but run their car on the dyno and you'll be set. Or just do like everyone else, get your car registered in fl, nc, sc, al or any of those states where the emissions aren't that strict.

BLacK FirE

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheekdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They had the new emission system updated last month so all those people running obd1 ecus in obd2 cars with ny registrations will have a problem. From what i've heard, the only way to beat the system is to have someone with an itr thats can pass the emissions go with you, let them scan your registration but run their car on the dyno and you'll be set. Or just do like everyone else, get your car registered in fl, nc, sc, al or any of those states where the emissions aren't that strict.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's no dyno for OBD2 inspection, if there was it wouldn't be as big of a problem.

Depending on his mods, it might not be so easy to run the OBD2 ecu. If your car can run with the OBD2 ecu then I say just do that and your set. If not, another way I've considered is getting the Greddy E-Manage. I don't really know too much about the system (or piggybacks in general), but from my understanding your still running the OBD2 ECU so the inspection computer will still be able to hook up to your stock ECU. So you use the greddy e-manage to have a quick tune on it that lets the car run and drive decently and use that to pass.

The other loop hole is if you have CEL and its going to cost more than a certain amount ($300 I think in NY), your exempted for the year. So if you know someone with a shop/inspection license...

Doostur

WHy not just find a corrupt shop to sign it off for you?

BLacK FirE

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHy not just find a corrupt shop to sign it off for you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's nothing to sign off on. It's all computerized and all of the information is sent to the DMV offices in Albany immediately. NY got hardcore with this stuff a couple years ago.

Doostur

^ Damn

John Z

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheekdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Being that i have first hand experience with this i can tell you that if you turn in your plates to the nysdmv, then try to get it registered you'll be in for the surprize of your life. You have a registration block so if you try to get it re-registered anywhere in NY, you'll have to do it before they give you plates. They'll tell you to have it towed and when you pass the inspection, it clears in the nydmv system.

They had the new emission system updated last month so all those people running obd1 ecus in obd2 cars with ny registrations will have a problem. From what i've heard, the only way to beat the system is to have someone with an itr thats can pass the emissions go with you, let them scan your registration but run their car on the dyno and you'll be set. Or just do like everyone else, get your car registered in fl, nc, sc, al or any of those states where the emissions aren't that strict.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the info. this was all i was looking for..


i want to put my car back to stock, but the ****** POS needs too much **** for me to do that. if anyone wants to lend me some parts ill give it a shot


If you live in NY and you drive an unregistered car on the street, you're breaking the law.

-true, i said this

If you live in NY and you register your car in SC, you're breaking the law.

-nope, if you inform your insurance co that the car is mainly driven in NY its not. people often do this to get cheaper rates by telling them the car is never in the state its in.

Your legal options are to restore OBD2 on the car, or to use the car for off-road use only.

-do me a fav, buy me a truck and trailor and ill be happy to do so


NYS inspections are bullshit. my old subaru with motor swap was OBD2, passed emissions cleaner than stock(i had the numbers to back this up) but it still failed me. so i had the same issue back then too..


the NEW OBD2 test reads your vin AND computer S/N.(old OBD2 test was only the vin) so when you scan the computer the S/N and vin are sent to dmv. now if i was to use somone elses car it will see the computer S/N was used on 2 different vins which will put a flag up on that shop that they either 1 swapped ecus or 2 plugged into another car. the tester can lose his lic and the shop can lose there ability to inspect cars in NYS

OH this thread can be locked cause the answer was posted. anything after this post will prob not be helpful

Ford Prefect

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by John Z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you live in NY and you register your car in SC, you're breaking the law.

-nope, if you inform your insurance co that the car is mainly driven in NY its not. people often do this to get cheaper rates by telling them the car is never in the state its in.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, but that's simply not true. If you reside in NY, and your car is registered in another state, you are breaking the law, period. Insurance has nothing to do with it. The legal question comes down to the definition of residency (where you live). Take this from someone who often keeps two "homes".

Opie

It may be against the law but it is NOT enforced. Don't reply back telling me yada yada I read an article blah blah blah. I live in NY deal with NY cops. I have a good amount of friends who have cars registered out of state including my GF's grandparents who get pulled over like anyone else, written tickets for their offenses and get sent on their way.

I never had an issue getting my R inspected, John. I would talk to Tran and see if he's got any ideas.

Ford Prefect

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Opie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It may be against the law but it is NOT enforced. Don't reply back telling me yada yada I read an article blah blah blah. I live in NY deal with NY cops. I have a good amount of friends who have cars registered out of state including my GF's grandparents who get pulled over like anyone else, written tickets for their offenses and get sent on their way.

I never had an issue getting my R inspected, John. I would talk to Tran and see if he's got any ideas.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, in many localities they do not enforce such things very strictly, unless they feel like it. My point was only regarding legality.

KayOs

all those old folks living in NY and carrying plates from Florida....

Opie

I know, now sell me your 97

AW

When did they change this? I lent out my 98 ITR ECU 2 years ago to another user to get his car through emissions, does this mean I can't use this ecu anymore?

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the NEW OBD2 test reads your vin AND computer S/N.(old OBD2 test was only the vin) so when you scan the computer the S/N and vin are sent to dmv. now if i was to use somone elses car it will see the computer S/N was used on 2 different vins which will put a flag up on that shop that they either 1 swapped ecus or 2 plugged into another car. the tester can lose his lic and the shop can lose there ability to inspect cars in NYS
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Ford Prefect

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Opie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know, now sell me your 97 </TD></TR></TABLE>
Youz gonna have to make me an offer I can't refuse, see ;-)

Seriously, I might consider it, it wouldn't be cheap, but you know it's worth it.