Black R

http://www.vulcantire.com/azenis_rt615_t.htm

225/50R15 91H *** 1st Qtr 2005

It seems that they have "H" and "W" ratings, depending on size.....

Flux

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That seems ridiculous.. I'm no expert on what goes into a rating, but why would the compund of the 225/50/15 be different that the 205 tire?

HondaRcB

Looking at other sizes, I'm assuming the 195/50/15 would feel better on the stock wheels from a steering response point of view. But would the decreased rolling diameter make a noticeable difference from the 205/50/15's? My gearing is already pretty short with the ATS FD.

Rice Is Best

im assuming the new azenis would still be garbage in the rain.

01-0720

another ignorant person saying azenis are trash in the rain
i dont understand why people say this, i had azenis on my car for the whole life of the tires, and i absolutly loved them, i drove pretty hard in the rain and never had a problem, i drove in absolutly all kinds of weather, i drove all threw winter in a half a foot of snow and never had a problem, people with no common sense doing mach 5 in the rain are ones sayin that they are no good, have some common sense and the tires are great

205-50-15 azenis are the best tire for the money, they are so cheap and perform so well and have a pretty good life, depending on how you drive


225-50 should be great for people running 8.0 wide wheels

falken has alot of new sizes coming out, and an all new style coming out also

Rice Is Best

azenis in the snow... may god (if you have one) be with you.

01-0720

last winter, if anybody in baltimore remembers, it was a crazy amount of snow, i drove everyday, didnt miss a day of work, never spun out, never hit anything, never got stuck, had no problems at all

azenis bad in rain/snow is a myth, its not true, iv said it before and ill say it again, use some common sense and they are a great all year tire

BlueR

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">last winter, if anybody in baltimore remembers, it was a crazy amount of snow, i drove everyday, didnt miss a day of work, never spun out, never hit anything, never got stuck, had no problems at all

azenis bad in rain/snow is a myth, its not true, iv said it before and ill say it again, use some common sense and they are a great all year tire</TD></TR></TABLE>

azenis should absolutely NOT be driven in the snow...
information like yours could get an unsuspecting newb/casual reader killed in a serious accident

01-0720

well if they go out and drive like fucktards in the snow, if they drive like they drive in the dry, yes that will happen, BUT IF YOU WHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT IM SAYING,DRIVE WITH COMMON ******* SENSE AND YOUL BE FINE, this is information coming from someone that has done it, not someon that heard it from some guys brothers second cousins friends coworker, iv lived it iv done it, these tires are fine in any weather, if you dont drive like a fucktard, but if you have the means to have a second set of rims with better suited tires then go with them, but if your like me and cant afford mutluple sets of rims then there fine

BlueR

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if they go out and drive like fucktards in the snow, if they drive like they drive in the dry, yes that will happen, </TD></TR></TABLE>

care should be taken regardless of the tires used in inclement weather, especially in the snow


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BUT IF YOU WHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT IM SAYING,DRIVE WITH COMMON ******* SENSE AND YOUL BE FINE, this is information coming from someone that has done it, not someon that heard it from some guys brothers second cousins friends coworker, iv lived it iv done it, these tires are fine in any weather, if you dont drive like a fucktard, but if you have the means to have a second set of rims with better suited tires then go with them, but if your like me and cant afford mutluple sets of rims then there fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

just because you have done it and managed to come out of it unscathed does not mean you should recommend to others the obviously idiotic notion of driving in the snow with a SUMMER rated tire that closely resembles a semi-slick

Bbasso

Eric, I could not even get out of my driveway when I had those tires... If you could drive on those then your my hero.

really.

SLCTyper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another ignorant person saying azenis are trash in the rain
i dont understand why people say this, i had azenis on my car for the whole life of the tires, and i absolutly loved them, i drove pretty hard in the rain and never had a problem, i drove in absolutly all kinds of weather, i drove all threw winter in a half a foot of snow and never had a problem, people with no common sense doing mach 5 in the rain are ones sayin that they are no good, have some common sense and the tires are great</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think a majority of the people that post on this board use Azenis Sports as track/daily driver tires (I do as well). That said, I'm not sure who you are trying to convince with your post that they are great in rain and snow. They are the exact opposite. In the summer, if I have Azenis mounted on my car, I will even go as far to avoid the freeway because I can feel my car hydroplaning IN VERY LIGHT RAIN above 45 mph. If you want to pretend they are an all-season tire good luck to you.

RTW DC2R

I wish I could drive an R back to back on the stock size tires and on something like 205/215 sized tires on the stock wheel to see how much difference in steering response there really is. that seems to be the main thing you hear about when it comes to getting a larger tire on the STOCK R wheel.

i prefer to rock studded snow tires and drive like a complete assh*le while everyone else is driving like grandma and stuck in a ditch

azenis or any high performance tire in the snow is a bad idea.

George Knighton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01-0720 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another ignorant person saying azenis are trash in the rain
i dont understand why people say this</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lots of Azenis experience here, too, and I have never understood why people felt they were bad in the rain.

On the other hand, I have no idea how you got through the snow with them.

Black R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lots of Azenis experience here, too, and I have never understood why people felt they were bad in the rain.

On the other hand, I have no idea how you got through the snow with them. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Ditto.

However, we have a shortage of snow here in GA so take that with a grain of salt.... (get it, salt? )

George Knighton

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... I can feel my car hydroplaning IN VERY LIGHT RAIN above 45 mph.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you still have tread?

Seriously, before I started driving RA1, Azenis were my track rain tyre. No problems at all.

01-0720

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLCTyper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think a majority of the people that post on this board use Azenis Sports as track/daily driver tires (I do as well). That said, I'm not sure who you are trying to convince with your post that they are great in rain and snow. They are the exact opposite. In the summer, if I have Azenis mounted on my car, I will even go as far to avoid the freeway because I can feel my car hydroplaning IN VERY LIGHT RAIN above 45 mph. If you want to pretend they are an all-season tire good luck to you. </TD></TR></TABLE>


im not saying there great, but there not horrible, they did fine, just as good as any other tire iv driven in the snow or rain with


Bbasso yeah i drove everyday, i even went and picked up people cuz there cars couldnt make it in the snow

im not sure why i bought the 17's i have now, but for any 15 or 16 inch i ever get will have azenis on them from now on, on my next R thats all that will go on there, i love um

97 TYPE-R 312

I agree, AZENIS in the rain isn't a problem. Snow, I'm sorry, that's just plain stupid. Just becuase nothing "happened" doesn't mean that it "won't happen." I really don't want to get into an arguement on what if someone wher to hit you to put you in lose of control once you went off line.... Now back to the rain, cause this post was worthless w/o pics!



Thanks,
Victor

BlueR

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Modified by BlueR at 12:44 AM 1/5/2005

97 TYPE-R 312

Feb 03?

-Victor

BlueR

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-Victor</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes...when the Dan River almost overflowed on the back straight

.RJ

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You're kidding? There's a huge difference b/t azenis and all seasons in bad weather, and b/t all seasons and snow tires.

SwiftTypeR

S03 &gt; Azenis

George Knighton

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225/50R15 91H *** 1st Qtr 2005
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I'm kind of curious about something. I've thought about switching from 205-50-15 RA1 to 225-50-15 RA1 just to get the extra tread. In some brands/sizes you can get as much as 1" extra by going to 225-50.

But...does the extra 1/2" in height bug you at all?

What axle ratio are you running?

Would you lower your car 1/2" to keep the height?

Black R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm kind of curious about something. I've thought about switching from 205-50-15 RA1 to 225-50-15 RA1 just to get the extra tread. In some brands/sizes you can get as much as 1" extra by going to 225-50.

But...does the extra 1/2" in height bug you at all?

What axle ratio are you running?

Would you lower your car 1/2" to keep the height?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Personally I have a 4.9 final drive on my itr and would definitely go with the ra-1's in 225... (and may still). Seeing as how I can swap wheels and tires between my two cars, I've actually been looking at the 245/50/15 hoosier road race compounds for my hatch - but then it's a lighter car and can accelerate faster (it also has the 4.9 final). Plus, I have to consider the fact that the hatch will soon have a good deal more displacement in the coming year (going from stock itr bottom end to over 2L). Furthermore, my itr is getting a snail this month (FINALLY) - so I feel that traction is most desirable given these circumstances. I autox a good bit more than I track the cars on the road course, but these tires would be double-duty.....

As far as ride-height is concerned, my cars are too low for the street anyway - so any ground clearance I can gain I consider beneficial. (The front lca's are parallel to the ground.)

I'm merely thinking of the azenis 225's as street tires.

Bottom line, I think it's a negligible difference in acceleration - much rewarded for in the corners. If you're concerned, opt for the 4.7 or 4.9 final and call it a day.