Black R

I have been very worried about having a dumped/ slammed itr and a hytech header....

Here is my solution. Many thanks go out to joey @ lockwood raceworks for making this possible.

On with the pics of the work in progress:











































Type Rally is now ready for action! And I even kept the factory splash guards! Completely bolt-on!


.....next step is to add traction bars to the mounting points on the front bar. I just need to figure out the geometry. Emails have already commenced to Jimfab.....

And to answer everyone else's questions..... it should work with all hytech, smsp, jdm 4-1 or 4-2-1, and comptech headers (including their knock-off of the hytech header).

I am in the process of setting up a groupbuy if anyone is interested. Just post up in this thread and we'll go from there.


Modified by Black R at 11:40 AM 5/25/2003

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

Wouldn't that make it worse? Lets say you hit the bar and the bar gets pushed upwards and dents your header.

disordeR

very cool.

Reid

Was there any reason why a nut was welded to the car instead of simply inserting a nutsert in the hole? I would think that the last thing you would want to do would be to sacrifice more ground clearance.

MattD@Stoptech

Whats the weight? l00ks pretty beefy, but will it sacrifice performance?

Dave-ROR

omg
why not do the entire underside?
why stop only 25% of the way back
WHAT ABOUT THE B-PIPE MAN!??!

edit: oh, I think it'll just hit more often now

GSRrR

extra weight y0!

haha very creative. good idea? i duno. has it given you any problems yet?

D

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wow, how NEAT!! i duno what you would do without it.

sigh... i can think of better ways to spend $500

RTW DC2R

interesting idea, but I think thats just gonna make your ground clearance that much less and eventually be banging into the header anyway. plus the weight factor is gonna slow you down

Bob#455

LOL...you just spent nearly half the cost of your header protecting...your header?

Dr Pooface

Nice innovative solution. Does it feel any different?

TREVER

so you loose ground clearance and add weight

Downey

very cool, very creative. id rather dent the skid plate than my $1200 header.

SPEED123

talk about proteting your investment.....nice very nice!!!!!!

oz#227

Yes - Weight....BUT....This must have helped improve the stiffness of the car.

I've got the Rear tower bar, aswell as the standard front tower bar. But at the track the middle seems to wander around. I'm looking at putting a couple of bars or a cross section underneath in the middle to help try to keep it stiff.

What I realy want to know is....Does it corner any differently now?

Tweakmeister

over engineering at its finest

this reminds me of the story about the pen that NASA developed...it cost $1 million. You see, your usual ball point pen doesn't write upsidedown or in antigravity, so NASA spent the bucks to create one that did.

The Russians, they too developed a similar writing utensil, they bought pencils.

Ross

Ken, you really make me angry sometimes.

I am on a 56K dial-up, and came to this thread expecting to "eat a dick" - instead, I find some lame **** about a header skidplate?

You should be docked a couple of points for false advertising.

sneakychaos

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I am on a 56K dial-up, and came to this thread expecting to "eat a dick" - instead, I find some lame **** about a header skidplate?

You should be docked a couple of points for false advertising.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL

Oh, and to remain on topic... I'm curious how much it weighs as well.

Black R

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I don't kow what header you think this is, but Hytech = $1300 + s&h.

Basically, if anything dents this skidplate - it would've really damaged the car. The steel is THAT strong..... weight = 18lbs and actually lowers the center of gravity + it's over the driving wheels for traction.....

As for the costs, where can you get a skidplate, traction bars, and front lower tie bar for $500? AND have them all be able to fit under your car in one integrated solution? Think about other valuable things like time. (Time = $) How long do you think turnaround is to get another header like this from Hytech? And how much will it cost you AGAIN to get another one, or to get your damaged one repaired? This skidplate paid for itself last night, imho. I would've fucked up the header on an unseen speed bump had I not this piece.


Modified by Black R at 1:19 AM 11/9/2003

Tweakmeister

the fact that it acts as a traction bar as well is great (as are the other cool "side effects").

the $500 pricetag seems....steep none the less.

johnzm

hey guys. this man is awesome at "making" things..

joey is the man! as long as were posting creatinve header protection solutions, ill post the one that joey made for me





BTW- if anyone thinks this is weak, think again. i CANNOT bent this into my header.

ken- PM me your phone number man!

Reid

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joey is the man! as long as were posting creatinve header protection solutions, ill post the one that joey made for me


BTW- if anyone thinks this is weak, think again. i CANNOT bent this into my header.
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Assuming you were to run into an obstacle with that skid plate, the obstacle would still dent the header into the oil pan. I don't see what the point is if the header can still be damaged.


Then again if the header is protected, I still don't see what the point is, but to each his own.

Hugh Bowie

all that for a header?

IGGY

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johnzm

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Assuming you were to run into an obstacle with that skid plate, the obstacle would still dent the header into the oil pan. I don't see what the point is if the header can still be damaged.


Then again if the header is protected, I still don't see what the point is, but to each his own.</TD></TR></TABLE>


im sorry but you are absolutley wrong. ive hit a speedbump i didnt see going 25 MPH. you see how low that is. the car came off teh ground. it saved my header.