Future50

I'm pricing out a set of coilovers and would like some input. I've searched each setup already but opinions would be great. I've always used H&R but would like to try a different route. The GC/Koni setup looks solid and it's one option I'm considering. I'm also checking out the PIC's and the KW Variant 2's. I honestly don't feel that I need damper adjustment, but would be nice to have. The difference between the PIC Apex vs the selects is only about $300 anyway. The KW v1's I hear are made in Taiwan where as the V2's are not. Again, the difference in price between those is only $300. KW is a solid brand and are waranteed for life. My qustion is this: comparing the selects to the V2's is there enough of a difference to pay the extra few hundred? And is the fact that the v2's are not made in Taiwan make that much of a difference? The GC/Koni setup will be close to $1k anyway so again, for an extra $350 would the v2's be the better choice?

jdm_dc_fan

iTrader: (1)

I also would like to nkow about kw3 im in the market for a set my suspension is worn out

SoTexDC2

I'm not sure what all you are considering with your Koni & GC setup, but the cost should not be 1k. Koni's can be had brand new for $450 shipped from an HT sponsor, and GC's should not cost more than $300, for a total of $750.

Future50

I'd probably opt for the TH's also.

Future50

Weksos's price is $1015 with 1 pair of tophats.

Todd00

Honestly, the Koni/GC setup is one of the better setups for this chassis of Honda/Acura, regardless of price.

You need to spend double to get a coilover setup that is almost as good as Koni/GC. I'm not knocking the other setups you mentioned, but the Koni/GC just really is that good for this application.

And the beauty is that springrates are easily changed and springs are easily acquired. Shocks are great as-is, but can be totally rebuilt to your specs in the USA and turn-around time is usually pretty quick.

Just nothing really negative I can say, honestly.

Jon D

Before you make a decision, call Jim and Al at PIC. They have fantastic customer service and will be happy to answer any questions you may have. For the price they offer an excellent product.

SoTexDC2

The upper control arms will hit the shock towers before the shock will bottom out. Unless you plan on dumping your car, and dumping its great handling characteristics, the GC Top Hats serve no purpose, other than bling. Before somebody calls me out, I do understand their intended purpose!

I totally support Weksos, and normally would not hesitate to order a product from them. However, in this case, I suggest you look at THMotorsports, Koni Yellows are $450 shipped to your door. Look around for the GC's as well, I paid $300 shipped and I've seen them cheaper since I bought mine.

Jon D

What is the intended use of your car? Do you plan on doing HPDE or AutoX? This is an important question to answer before you make a decision as well.

Tiger_Si

Koni and GC are great options, but they are a pain in the *** to install.

I had the Koni with Neuspeed set up in my ITR. I personally I would do full Coilovers.

I know money is always an issue, but once you buy the right part 'ONCE' you dont have to buy **** twice.

B serious

iTrader: (1)

why are koni and GCs a pain in the *** to install? Because you have to retrieve your stock top hats? I wouldn't really call that a pain in the ***. I don't even use a spring compressor.

UNLESS...you live in the midwest and your top mounts are all rusted in the back like mine was. I stripped out the top of the shock (the allen key part) trying to remove the top hats. I had to vice grip the shock. But again...really not a HUGE deal.

SoTexDC2

What exactly, about the Koni & GC setup, do you find to be a pain in the *** to install?

I agree, buy the right part once.

Future50

Turn up music and hit the twistys. I may do a little autocross next year, but my car is used primarily for spirited driving on the backroads in the valley, not a dd. I run with street bikes allot. I want to close the wheelgap, not dump it. Maybe 1.5" rear, 1.75" in the front. I just really want to change the stance while keeping/improving handling. But I don't want to skimp on it either. I don't mind spending an extra few hundred if I can justify it.

Jon D

IMO....i wouldn't look any further than PIC. The Apex is what i recommend. Excellent product and you will not find better customer service. They have supported the community's events for years. It is always nice to give back and show them your support.

http://picperformance.com/store/scri...?idCategory=81

Jon D

Have you ever given consideration to hitting the track? NJMP is not far from you. If you like spirited driving and hitting the twisties, you would have an absolute blast at the track. I don't know to the extremes in which you push your vehicle on public roads, but obviously the track is the ideal environment for safely pushing the car to the limits for which it was built.

01-0720

pic only lists 10k,8k, but says they offer more, is that for others, or can you request higher spring rates

Jon D

You can request custom spring rates, but i'm not certain it doesn't cost more to do so.

SoTexDC2

Just for comparison purposes, have any of you guys switched from a Koni & Ground Control setup, to a PIC setup with similar spring rates?

I've heard nothing but great things about PIC, and I'm all for supporting your Expo sponsors.

itr1244

what about blistein shocks?

JohnW

Ditto that about PIC. Ran a 1:22.0 at Summit on their shocks. Used them for 3 years and they were great... never a problem- bolt on and go.

KW has the world worst customer service on the planet. Buy anything but their crap. Please.

I H-A-T-E.... KW's US staff and lack of service. Would it freakin' kill you to return and call or e-mail????

Buy the PIC's.
Fast.
Cheap.
Nice Quality.
Good Service.
Al and Jim are cool.
Done.

Thanks I feel better!

jdm_dc_fan

iTrader: (1)

Aside from their costumer servive, would KW be a better coilover over PIC for autox/hpde?

Little_Nolan

iTrader: (3)

Everyone seems to really enjoy their PICs, never heard complaints from users in the community... I will be upgrading from my Koni/GC to PIC's or Spoon N1's sometime in the near future.


My money is on PIC for you, Jon D said it best.. just do what he says lol

1tuffbb6

iTrader: (1)

PIC all the way, just installed my Selects a little bit ago, great product, and great customer service, sent me a set of spanner wrenches for free.

Right now they have temporarily halted production on a few of the sets, like the R3 selects (12kF/14kR) and I was lucky to get one of the last sets.

Dr. DC2

I have ground control and koni yellow adjustables GREAT SETUP!

GC and adj. Koni Yellows FTMFW!

Jon D

HELL NO!