How can I pass a CA smog test?
03-14-2002, 08:53 AM
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How can I pass a CA smog test?
The DMV kindly requests that I smog my ITR. Is there any way I can get my car to pass even though I have cams, CAI, a JDM 4-1, and a Random Technology cat?
What are the parameters they use for a smog test in California? I heard they only rev the engine up to 3000 RPM. Would I have to lean out my engine excessively? Restrict the air intake? Any suggestions?
[Modified by dimsum, 6:24 PM 3/14/2002]
What are the parameters they use for a smog test in California? I heard they only rev the engine up to 3000 RPM. Would I have to lean out my engine excessively? Restrict the air intake? Any suggestions?
[Modified by dimsum, 6:24 PM 3/14/2002]
03-14-2002, 08:56 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (dimsum)
well, most places will probably pop the hood and then tell you to go someplace else b/c of the header (unless it's got the heat shield) and the CIA (cai?).
03-14-2002, 09:21 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (FusionITR)
Unless you put a heat shield on the header, you will probably fail the visual.
Your cams may also cause you to fail the emissions part of the test, but there is no way beforehand of telling if they will or not.
Your cams may also cause you to fail the emissions part of the test, but there is no way beforehand of telling if they will or not.
03-14-2002, 11:06 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (dimsum)
I say this everytime the topic of failing visual inspection comes up...
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SHADY SMOG STATIONS!
I went to a $hithole shop that did little but smog inspections with my header, cat, exhaust, cai, and a partridge-in-a-pear-tree and they didn't even bat an eye. Maybe they weren't crooked so much as IGNORANT, but there was no drama or overt/deliberate request for a bribe.
Granted, they ran my car twice and hit me up for a $20 "re-test fee". But on the second run (when the cat was good & hot) I passed the sniffer well within the legal limit.
Do a little legwork...
Now, as far as your cams and such go... some folks have had better running cars AFTER cams (i.e. milage went up, which would infer better efficiency which would infer lower emissions). Put her on the dyno - stick a probe up her 'pipe and find out.
V.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SHADY SMOG STATIONS!
I went to a $hithole shop that did little but smog inspections with my header, cat, exhaust, cai, and a partridge-in-a-pear-tree and they didn't even bat an eye. Maybe they weren't crooked so much as IGNORANT, but there was no drama or overt/deliberate request for a bribe.
Granted, they ran my car twice and hit me up for a $20 "re-test fee". But on the second run (when the cat was good & hot) I passed the sniffer well within the legal limit.
Do a little legwork...
Now, as far as your cams and such go... some folks have had better running cars AFTER cams (i.e. milage went up, which would infer better efficiency which would infer lower emissions). Put her on the dyno - stick a probe up her 'pipe and find out.
V.
03-14-2002, 11:35 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (yoshi234)
....and the CIA (cai?).
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03-14-2002, 11:42 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (jl74)
What if you have an Icebox, with CARB sticker on it?
03-14-2002, 11:45 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (norice)
What if you have an Icebox, with CARB sticker on it?
The whole point of the CARB sticker is to prove that it is legal.
The whole point of the CARB sticker is to prove that it is legal.
If not, the sticker is real cheesy that anyone can print in their computer and stick it on any intake, or any part of their choosing.
03-14-2002, 11:49 AM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (jl74)
Oh - yes. They are not quite that stupid. The sticker has an EO number that they used to correlate with the master list that they have.
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03-14-2002, 12:28 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (TypeRformewhenIB18)
I tried to smog my car today and the shop wouldn't do it because of the CAI, oh but get this, they would do it and pass it for $100 USD. Then I said , are you crazy it should pass just tested and even if it doesn't pass, which it should I'll pay the regular amount, then the guy said, " how about $85 and I'll make it pass". I kept telling him that it would pass and he kept looking for mods. Finally brought the shop manager and he said I don't think the CAI is legal so I won't tested.
But they would do it for $100
It should pass right?, the only mod is the CAI at least engine wise..
But they would do it for $100 It should pass right?, the only mod is the CAI at least engine wise..
03-14-2002, 12:35 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (dustin)
I should have posted a new topic for this, maybe I am confusing. I am not the same member that started this topic. I just added my experience from today trying to smog the R. My only engine mod is the CAI, that is why I ask that it should pass smog.
If it should pass smog with the CAI then all i need to pay is the regular fee of $20 and not have to pay $100.
I'll start another topic, didn't mean to take over this one with something alittle different.....
If it should pass smog with the CAI then all i need to pay is the regular fee of $20 and not have to pay $100.
I'll start another topic, didn't mean to take over this one with something alittle different.....
03-14-2002, 12:40 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (dustin)
It is the AEM CAI.
Dustin- That was the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
I'll take it to my buddies shop.
Hey, dimsum, where in CA are you? maybe you can take to the shop I went to if you are cool with cheating. I was actually thinking about reporting them to the DMV just for being morons.
Dustin- That was the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
I'll take it to my buddies shop.
Hey, dimsum, where in CA are you? maybe you can take to the shop I went to if you are cool with cheating. I was actually thinking about reporting them to the DMV just for being morons.
03-14-2002, 12:56 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (98401R)
98401R- I'm in San Jose. Any chance that shop is around here?
I don't think ITR AEM CAIs ever came with a CARB number. One cop I spoke with even went so far as to say that there are no CARB-legal intakes for the ITR. I don't know how much truth there is to that statement, but as far as I know, the AEM intake is not CARB legal. Mine did not come with a CARB number. Did yours?
[Modified by dimsum, 9:57 PM 3/14/2002]
I don't think ITR AEM CAIs ever came with a CARB number. One cop I spoke with even went so far as to say that there are no CARB-legal intakes for the ITR. I don't know how much truth there is to that statement, but as far as I know, the AEM intake is not CARB legal. Mine did not come with a CARB number. Did yours?
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03-14-2002, 12:58 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (B2FiNiTY)
well if that shop will pass anyone for $85... you need to hook all of us up. (privately through email, of course) hit me up with the info though... it could come in handy some day...
03-14-2002, 01:11 PM
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (B2FiNiTY)
I guess they must came with them later because mine didn't either nor did a friends of mine.
To me I don't think it should be crime to mod your car as long as you pass the sniffer test. Maybe they should pass a tax tariff for depending on how much emissions is being produced by your car and you would pay that every yr during inspection time frame. Here if you drive a electric think cars from Ford you get 30-40% tax break at the end of every yr.
To me I don't think it should be crime to mod your car as long as you pass the sniffer test. Maybe they should pass a tax tariff for depending on how much emissions is being produced by your car and you would pay that every yr during inspection time frame. Here if you drive a electric think cars from Ford you get 30-40% tax break at the end of every yr.
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Re: How can I pass a CA smog test? (98401R)
CARB sticker alone doesn't mean anything. The CARB sticker must also match the make, model, and YEAR of the car that it is attached to! If it doesn't fulfill all three then it's not legal.