Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage
11-30-2003, 08:40 PM
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Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage
So I did some searching, but I couldn't get a very clear cut answer.
One person said change the oil first because you don't want contaminates sitting in the engine, but some said rigth after storage but gave no clear answer, except for acura recomends 3 months or 3000 miles.
My car has been started like once every week or 2 weeks, and been in storage for 4 months. I changed it right before I left, and I don't want to spend money on mobil 1 if i don't have to. can oil go bad if it sat around for awhile? Right after i get home I'm going to start it up and drive her 360 miles right off the bat, and I don't want to do anything bad to it. Maybe i'll just drain the oil and leave the filter. Except its freezing cold and I don't want to if i don't have to...
Well thanks..
One person said change the oil first because you don't want contaminates sitting in the engine, but some said rigth after storage but gave no clear answer, except for acura recomends 3 months or 3000 miles.
My car has been started like once every week or 2 weeks, and been in storage for 4 months. I changed it right before I left, and I don't want to spend money on mobil 1 if i don't have to. can oil go bad if it sat around for awhile? Right after i get home I'm going to start it up and drive her 360 miles right off the bat, and I don't want to do anything bad to it. Maybe i'll just drain the oil and leave the filter. Except its freezing cold and I don't want to if i don't have to...
Well thanks..
11-30-2003, 08:53 PM
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (B2FiNiTY)
I would like to know too...
My 240SX is for storage outside under car cover in New York winter. Since I'm going to ditch the tire and wheel in spring, I didn't leave it on jackstands. I disconnected the battery, empty engine oil and slap on a new oil fiter with a little bit of oil for lubrication. Anything wrong or more to do?
My 240SX is for storage outside under car cover in New York winter. Since I'm going to ditch the tire and wheel in spring, I didn't leave it on jackstands. I disconnected the battery, empty engine oil and slap on a new oil fiter with a little bit of oil for lubrication. Anything wrong or more to do?
11-30-2003, 08:59 PM
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you didn't put ANY oil in it but a little bit?
hmm....
but should i do it both times after even starting it once ever week or 2 weeks?
damn it, next time i'm using conventional for storage.
hmm....
but should i do it both times after even starting it once ever week or 2 weeks?
damn it, next time i'm using conventional for storage.
11-30-2003, 09:20 PM
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (dk127)
So your caR is going to sit for 4 months and get started once every 2 weeks, Then your going to start it up and drive 360 miles after all that? correct?
What are the temps where your storing it? does it change much from freezing to warm and back to cold?
Myself, I would change the oil before and after- For the few bucks its like having cheap ins that your caR will run fine.
What are the temps where your storing it? does it change much from freezing to warm and back to cold?
Myself, I would change the oil before and after- For the few bucks its like having cheap ins that your caR will run fine.
12-01-2003, 02:44 AM
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (B2FiNiTY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do it both times. Before and after. Yes leave the filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You only need to change your oil BEFORE you store it. Fresh oil will not go bad in a stored vehicle. Secondly, you are doing more harm than good by starting your stored vehicle in the winter and letting it idle for 10 minutes.
You only need to change your oil BEFORE you store it. Fresh oil will not go bad in a stored vehicle. Secondly, you are doing more harm than good by starting your stored vehicle in the winter and letting it idle for 10 minutes.
12-01-2003, 06:43 AM
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (BrewCityR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrewCityR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Secondly, you are doing more harm than good by starting your stored vehicle in the winter and letting it idle for 10 minutes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
While we're on the topic, I've gotten lots of answers to that also. I was under the assumption that starting it once a week was ok...
Temp does transition from hot to cold, its in a garage except the garage isn't temperature regulated.
I can see why it wouldn't hurt to change it, but the oil is just sitting in the engine, as if it was sitting in the bottle. Its sealed, so no moisture is getting in. So, is it REALLY nessary?
Secondly, you are doing more harm than good by starting your stored vehicle in the winter and letting it idle for 10 minutes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
While we're on the topic, I've gotten lots of answers to that also. I was under the assumption that starting it once a week was ok...
Temp does transition from hot to cold, its in a garage except the garage isn't temperature regulated.
I can see why it wouldn't hurt to change it, but the oil is just sitting in the engine, as if it was sitting in the bottle. Its sealed, so no moisture is getting in. So, is it REALLY nessary?
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (dk127)
condensation is what kills oil that is sitting in a motor.
Time alone, from what I understand does nothing to the oil but when you have weather, and air pollutants, they will take effect on something thats not properly stored.
Example: My friend has a jet ski, for off seasons we use this fogger spray in the motor, it covers the inside of the motor with some sort of chemical film to prevent rust and moisture build up and whatever else can hurt the motor.
Like I said before, whats the harm in doing it twice, an extra $30? is that not worth saving your motor?
No [fire] just asking.
Time alone, from what I understand does nothing to the oil but when you have weather, and air pollutants, they will take effect on something thats not properly stored.
Example: My friend has a jet ski, for off seasons we use this fogger spray in the motor, it covers the inside of the motor with some sort of chemical film to prevent rust and moisture build up and whatever else can hurt the motor.
Like I said before, whats the harm in doing it twice, an extra $30? is that not worth saving your motor?
No [fire] just asking.
12-01-2003, 09:41 AM
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Well, i have no steady job, so i'm short on cash and time. I guess next time i'll just use some cheap conventional oil for storage then drain it and put in some mobil 1.
I agree, $30 is a cheap price to pay, but I want to be sure i should spend that $30 instead of me not having to spend that money.
But out of curiosity, how does condensation accumliate in the motor?
I agree, $30 is a cheap price to pay, but I want to be sure i should spend that $30 instead of me not having to spend that money.
But out of curiosity, how does condensation accumliate in the motor?
12-01-2003, 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dk127 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But out of curiosity, how does condensation accumliate in the motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I found this, maybe not the best but the best that I found.
"when warm air containing water vapor hits something cool, the water molecules turn into a liquid. (They condense.) That's why drops of water collect on the outside of a cool glass. The cool air close to the glass causes water molecules in the air to slow down and condense against the side of the glass."
But out of curiosity, how does condensation accumliate in the motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I found this, maybe not the best but the best that I found.
"when warm air containing water vapor hits something cool, the water molecules turn into a liquid. (They condense.) That's why drops of water collect on the outside of a cool glass. The cool air close to the glass causes water molecules in the air to slow down and condense against the side of the glass."
12-01-2003, 10:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I found this, maybe not the best but the best that I found.
"when warm air containing water vapor hits something cool, the water molecules turn into a liquid. (They condense.) That's why drops of water collect on the outside of a cool glass. The cool air close to the glass causes water molecules in the air to slow down and condense against the side of the glass."</TD></TR></TABLE>
very applicable to the engine... also, be sure to store with a full tank of gas for the same reason, otherwise you can end up w/ a rust on the inside of the gas tank and have major fuel problems.
I found this, maybe not the best but the best that I found.
"when warm air containing water vapor hits something cool, the water molecules turn into a liquid. (They condense.) That's why drops of water collect on the outside of a cool glass. The cool air close to the glass causes water molecules in the air to slow down and condense against the side of the glass."</TD></TR></TABLE>
very applicable to the engine... also, be sure to store with a full tank of gas for the same reason, otherwise you can end up w/ a rust on the inside of the gas tank and have major fuel problems.
12-01-2003, 04:01 PM
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (dk127)
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (BrewCityR)
the only damage storing does to an engine is seals getting hard or brittle..
i wouldnt worry about all this...when you come back...disconnect ignition...crank a few times to prime engine...then fire it up and let in run for a few minutes..if a seal has gone bad..replace, but i highly doubt one will...4 months isnt very long.
i wouldnt worry about all this...when you come back...disconnect ignition...crank a few times to prime engine...then fire it up and let in run for a few minutes..if a seal has gone bad..replace, but i highly doubt one will...4 months isnt very long.
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Re: Grr, need clear cut answer on oil change after storage (dk127)
if you're not going to start it and warm it up all the way (drive 15-20 minutes) then dont bother starting it at all. i've let cars sit for 3 months before.
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