digital sol

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I want more power of out my itr but dont wanna use nitrous and dont really wanna keep is na. Id like to throw it on boost, however i am new to the itr scene and not sure exaclty which kits are the best and most reliable. I have hondata already and just want some more power. Im not sure how much boost a stock itr can handle without wearing it out quicker. I want to keep the car reliable but want some more power. Any idea of what kits are the best to use, how much boost we can run and how reliable it will be?

Will a greddy kit with some extras do the trick? Hoping for around 220-250whp on stock motor if its possibly, id like to not touch the block or head and just stick with a stock motor and turbo kit but i cant afford to relace pistons and rings every 6 months either. Give me input pleaaaaaase

Mugen Mike

Boost = $$$

Gotta pay to play

Chris F

Boosting an ITR? Never, ever been done.

Search the FI forum (Forced Induction) for ITR, make sure to include archived content since archived means about a week in there.

250 on stock internals is easily done. I think the greddy kit is OK, but the internal wastegate on the 18G turbo couldn't keep up on my setup (=severe boost creep) so my tuner installed an external wastegate.

Greddy kits need a little higher PSI to get the equivalent HP. They are a good size for modest goals though, and everything fits right the first time.

I'd also suggest Hondata instead of the E-Manage (or blue box) that comes with the kit, and 440 or 550cc injectors.

-Chris

Edit, if you buy everything new, the greddy kit with intercooler and Hondata and tuning and injectors and bigger radiator/intercooler (if you want to road race) and oil pressure/temperature and A/F and EGT gauges, and a boost controller with installation and tuning will run you about $7000-$8000 unless you do some bargain shopping.

digital sol

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i know but is there a basic kit i can just bolt on and tune and enjoy it? I dont want monsterous power, just want a quick daily driver thats not gonna get crispy......they make gredy kits for b16's i figured they had to have a basic kit for the itr's as well.

digital sol

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thanks my car actually is already running off hondata and its na at the moment

what other kits would you reccomend? i just want a quicker daily driver but it will be taken to the track everynow and then, not looking for a screamer but a nice spooling 250whp would be nice and im sure it would be enough speed for me

cheezthis

Considering you can make over 300 whp on a GSR w/boost w/out much trouble...I'm sure the similar results can be found on an ITR. Search is your friend...check zygpeed's old motor. Likewise, research britishguy's posts on team-integra as well as his GSR makes an insane amount of power w/boost too.

Chris F

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by digital sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know but is there a basic kit i can just bolt on and tune and enjoy it? I dont want monsterous power, just want a quick daily driver thats not gonna get crispy......they make gredy kits for b16's i figured they had to have a basic kit for the itr's as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The greddy kit for the B18C (GSR) fits, but again I had bad boost creep with it.

Mugen Mike

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cheezthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering you can make over 300 whp on a GSR w/boost w/out much trouble...I'm sure the similar results can be found on an ITR. Search is your friend...check zygpeed's old motor. Likewise, research britishguy's posts on team-integra as well as his GSR makes an insane amount of power w/boost too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but he doesn't want to open up the bottom end. In that case, I would just bolt on a JRSC.

Finland

here's my site, it should give you a little bit of info
http://ffdet.com/members/jan/

cheezthis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, but he doesn't want to open up the bottom end. In that case, I would just bolt on a JRSC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed...just check out Jim's ITR w/JRSC. That thing flew at Expo and MAM last year. Plus, he's a great and helpful guy to boot.

vtec.dc2

how do you know that you want low hp? i wanted the same, thankfully my kit was capable of much more and so i'll be doing that.. you don't know until you start boosting.. also, be prepared to rebuild at some point, don't think it will not happen.. motor age + increased hp / driver errors + part failures = engine rebuild = lots of money you'll never get back.

i would stay away from greddy and get something that will be easy to upgrade later on and be reliable.

GoodFella

i think we all start just wanting a little more power like 230-250whp, and trust me once you are in it you will want more. plan on spending 6 grand to do it right, and thats sick whp.

Misfit

right now I have 235/165 on 5.5 lbs.... I already want more... 8 lbs this saturday... I am shooting for 260ish...

My CR is also 11.1

It's fun.. but it isn't cheap. Just get a good tuner and EMS.

Mythias

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, but he doesn't want to open up the bottom end. In that case, I would just bolt on a JRSC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. Im very happy with my JRSC setup. With good tuning, you really can get some good numbers.

digital sol

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how much boost/power can you run on a jrsc without damaging the motor, basically whats a good boost level/power number to stop at while tuning so you can make sure the motor last

also what kind of jrsc set-up are you running? something like this?

jrsc
Liquid Intercooler System
JR MAP controller
hondata w/boost option
Thermostat
440CC injectors

give me the details

and then intake, header, exhaust? Im looking for around 250whp area as long as i can keep the motor stock and not have to worry about blowing up a piston or ring's.

Big Phat R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by digital sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want more power of out my itr but dont wanna use nitrous and dont really wanna keep is na. Id like to throw it on boost, however i am new to the itr scene and not sure exaclty which kits are the best and most reliable. I have hondata already and just want some more power. Im not sure how much boost a stock itr can handle without wearing it out quicker. I want to keep the car reliable but want some more power. Any idea of what kits are the best to use, how much boost we can run and how reliable it will be?

Will a greddy kit with some extras do the trick? Hoping for around 220-250whp on stock motor if its possibly, id like to not touch the block or head and just stick with a stock motor and turbo kit but i cant afford to relace pistons and rings every 6 months either. Give me input pleaaaaaase</TD></TR></TABLE>


Buy a faster car - that's the simplest solution

Batoutahell

For a jrsc to hit 250whp, you'll need 10-11psi which is about the maximum you can run the jrsc mainly because of intake temps. The parts you'll want are the blower, upgraded boost pulley(s), hondata s200 with boost, 440cc, and i/h/e. Short ram intake, kamikaze header and either 2.5" or 3" cat to tip exhaust. You should hit 250-260whp with the base map provided by hondata and minimal dyno tuning. 10psi is fine for daily driving. Not sure if it's a bit much for extended track use, it might melt the stock internals over time if you're constantly at 9,000 rpm and full boost on the track.

vtec.dc2

so you know, your car will not be safer with supercharger vs turbocharger.. the only reason people say it might be because supercharged setups don't make much hp and leading to less wear on the engine.

PM-Performance

man whats up with this. lately everyone wants boost. i remember the days i was flamed for this stuff. lol.

i would go with bigger than a greddy kit. once you start boosting you will want more HP. started out saying i wanted 250-300whp and ended up with a 600+whp capable set up. its addicting and costs lots of money. save for a build too becuase it WILL happen.

Misfit

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man whats up with this. lately everyone wants boost. i remember the days i was flamed for this stuff. lol.

i would go with bigger than a greddy kit. once you start boosting you will want more HP. started out saying i wanted 250-300whp and ended up with a 600+whp capable set up. its addicting and costs lots of money. save for a build too becuase it WILL happen. </TD></TR></TABLE>I went custom on my set up. I got better all around parts than a kit and the potential to put down more power is always an option in the future.

ATgrills.com

Supercharge that Biatch... you will hit 250WHP NO problem at like 9PSI with a CRV pulley...

Reliability is like stock and instant boost...

yes I know I will never get muuch over 300WHP with my set up

digital sol

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im really only looking for around 250whp, what kind of supercharger set-up should i look into? I already have hondata just need to get boost option. I just wanna get in the 12's or low 13's. This itr motor is in my del sol for future reference, wish i had the actual type r but i couldnt afford it so i put the jdm type r motor in my sol . What type of matainenece is required for superchargers, like belt changes etc etc. Sounds like itd be a good idea for a beefy daily driver, how would it affect my mpg and road trips "overhating"?


Modified by digital sol at 5:07 PM 8/31/2004

Nvious R

Search my friend.

This is the second " I wanna turbo my R " thread i've read in the last 2 minutes.

What kind of power are you looking to achieve. I'd suggest doing a custom setup. The last thread i posted up in bitched about the gay 50mm piping greddy kits come with.
good luck

FOrSfEd

For a moderate increase in power I would def stick with the greddy kit or the revhard kit. Since you have hondata you are well on your way.

Chris F

FYI, I just made 288.5 whp with my ITR with the Greddy kit. Stock motor.

-Chris


Edit: WHEEEEEEEEEEE!