mike5809

Ok basics: Just rebuilt motor: forged pistons shotpeened rods, knfe edge crank, a new b20z head milled, etc....you get the point...all parts roughly 6000 miles or so

OK problem: Sometimes i start my car up and it smokes and will smoke for first few shifts...at first thought it was valve seals but only does it once in a while and its white smoke.
Also i could be driving and it would be fine no smoke at all...Then i would let it idle for about 5 min or so and it would sput out white smoke and if i gave it gas more smoke would come out....and it lingers around a good bit...Doesnt happen everytime, just once in a while

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Like i said motor is new so is head and headgasket....dosent seem to have lost much performance....
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When i first put motor in seemd like running real lean...i put used plugs in and after 1,500 miles they were all white and very dry but i didnt really test at WOT....but now i just checked teh plugs from WOT and plugs seemed fine good color, no wear, and dosent seem like water/coolent in cylinder
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I was loosing alot of coolent when first put motor in...i knew i was leaking from radiator...i replaced that but didnt help alot...then went on vacation for a week...the weather got about 30 degrees warmer when i came back and hasnt gone through coolent yet (2 months) Also there is no oil in coolent.....coolent in oil....so that makes me not suspect headgasket
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Plus i just gutted cat not to long ago...i didnt notice smoke really b4 i did that...but weather was cold so it coudla mixed in with vapor...think that could be a part
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If u search i put 2 other topics up along time ago: 1 was i had a lot of water that dripped outta my ehxhaust 2 times....maybe that has something contributed to this? If u search "water in exhaust" u should be able to find it....i never did find the answer to that - but it just stoped and hasnt done it for a while
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And i allways use oil...i go through it alot - buti know its leaking alot from the cam seal pulg and cam holders as i didnt use honda bond while puttin them on...but its also leaking from valve cover gasket...so im 95% its not burning...but its also leaking from what looks like somewhere under the distributer....as it runs down the front of the tranny ne ideas could it be leaking from cylinder wher head and block meet? Plus ive been using 10w30 oil but using a NO name crappy brand....could that effect it?
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Things i heard it could be:

-Headgasket (i kinda doubt as i see no oil in coolent, etc and its new...unless i put it in wrong)

-Bad fuel pump

-Cracked or Warped Head - I doubt as its new and also was milled

-Head bolts came lose/arnt tightenuf - I used ARP head studs and never retorqued after ruunning car for a while - i torqued them down to 75 lbs...using motor oil as lubricant

-Or other serious motor problems (bearings etc) - I hope not as its all new

Please tell me what you think....I really need this fixed as i dont want to mess my new motor up.

You can either post
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Thank you so much....Sorry its so long i just tried to add as much detail so you could get the picture and understand
Mike


Modified by mike5809 at 3:03 PM 5/12/2003


Modified by mike5809 at 3:05 PM 5/12/2003

mike5809

Bump...Neone? I really need some help

The-LS

Do you have a PCV valve? Is the freash air tube from the valve cover to intake tube still there? Just throwing a shot in the dark you could have a similiar problem as my buddies 98 gsr, but I kinda doubt it...

koco

You need to run your compression test for one thing. It can be quite revealing. Also you can test for exhaust gasses in the coolant with a kit from NAPA. White smoke usually indicates coolant or water in the combustion chamber. Good Luck, party on dewd.

mike5809

i do have a pcv valve...its brand new valve...im running the one from the intake mani to the block...not the valve cover (from the b20 head)

i will do a compression check hopefully soon....that should be able to tell me if my head gasket is bad

but like i said i still have a good bit of power....beat all civics, probes, etc....catches 2nd nicely and revs to 6500 very smoothly.....?
so thats why i dont think headgasket is bad, cause i heard you lose alot of pwoer if its blown or bad?

mike5809

TTT: These boreds go fast...damn...lol Ne other thoughts?

.RJ

if its thin white smoke its just vapor. no worry.

thick, big clouds of white smoke - coolant - retorque head studs and go from there.

mike5809

hey thanks, i know its not vapor...see when it was cold i thought it was cause it would dissapate quick...but now its like 70 degrees or more and it lingers around alot...its not very thick as u say.....but it stays around along time...like it could trave all the way from the rear of the car all the way to the front and still go on....so im like 95% sure its smoke.

I will get teh head retorqued.....
are u normally supposed to retoruq after a few miles with ARP studs?
Also coudl lose head studs cause smoke??

thank you
mike

koco

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mike5809

Well quick question
do u guys think this is the bottom end related...(pistons rings)
head
or headgasket or other

cause i found a KILLER deal on a head that i can buy fully built with crower...that i can put on my built bottom end

so if u guys think its NOT the bottom end im gonna buy it then just replace the head and head gasket

mike5809

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Modified by mike5809 at 3:03 PM 5/12/2003

mike5809

Ok well another problem.
when i put the motor in i put a new radiator in...so its about 4 months old now or so
well the other day i was driving and it just literrarly blew up...a big whole was busted in the bottom and my coolent overflow resivor was full.
so someone told me that could eb caused by headgasket?

i baught a new headgasket and dowel/guide pins....(as they werent in the block b4 and ppl said that might of made it not sit right)
so im gonna replace it this week

well what do u think headgasket?
someone else said a ring might be cracked...but it only has 6,000 miles or so and it blows white smoke and only at idle and start up ocne in a while...

so lmk what y a think

like i said there are no dowel/guide pins either
thanks

95c1v1cs1

bump. I am interested in this White smoke stuff... I am getting it also.

4DeepCivic

[QUOTE=mike5809]Ok well another problem.
when i put the motor in i put a new radiator in...so its about 4 months old now or so
well the other day i was driving and it just literrarly blew up...a big whole was busted in the bottom and my coolent overflow resivor was full.
so someone told me that could eb caused by headgasket?


You may have a blockage on your cooling system. Your pressure on your cooling system could be a little high and the coolant is making it's way into the combustion chamber... Just a guess....

mike5809

like where could a blockage occur...

i do have a block guard could that be it or not?

or are u talking about in the coolent lines somewhere?
im pretty sure my problem IS headgasket....it goes in tuesday so we wil find out soon enuf

krazy

id also like to know, my car does it too. stock b18c1 though. no rebuild or anything.

krazy