_dc4_

Well today it was raining and as go to turn on my car to go to the gym everything is at it should be. on the way to the gym i don't go through any puddles or any of that since my car is pretty low. I finally get out of the gym and it is still raining.... When i go to turn on my car it won't turn on. it doesn't even crank. there is no noise/clicking or anything. everything turns on like normal (dash/cluster lights) and i hear the fuel running. since it was raining i quickly checked all the fuses to see if that was the problem but everything was good there. I had no choice but to leave my car there and wait until it stopped raining so i could further see what could possibly been the problem. 45 min later it stopped raining and i go back. i checked if anything electrical got wet or if anything got unplugged and nothing. i call my boy so he can help me push my car to his house so it won't just stay in the parking lot of the gym. when he gets there and as we start pushing it i try and see if the car can get push started. BOOM! the car turns on. i'm thinking that it maybe the alternator. maybe it got wet some how? idk. Iget to my boys house, i turn off the car and when i go to turn it on..nothing..idk wtf is going on -.- it started to rain again so can't do **** at the moment. If ANYONE has any input on this pleaassee comment.

PS. my car has never gave me a problem like this and iv'e had it for 5 years now.

fcm

Start by redoing your main grounds, [batt. to chassis, chassis to engine] DO NOT just eyeball them, disconnect/clean/reconnect.

If that does not work, try a bypass jump and start circuit test...
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...cm+bypass+jump

leyt me know wjhat you find 94

_dc4_

i'll try that as soon as the weather allows me too. thanks for the input!

1998GsRIntegra

FCM has you covered. You owe your buddy a beer or two. I can't think of too many people I could call and say "hey can you help me push my car to your house?" that would actually show up and help.

_dc4_

Lol yeah I know man. ^^

With the little time that the weather gave me today I did the bypass jump. It turns out that it isn't the starter/starter solenoid cause the car turned on with the first test. But when I did the second one the test light didn't turn on when I matched it up with the negative of the battery. So it must be the ign switch/cis/starter relay as stated in that bypass thread. Only question is how would I pin point exactly which of the problems it could be?

Blackhalo6

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it may be the ign switch itself. Those things are prone to shorting the bed so to speak. Usually with the run position bit I've seen start too.

fcm

That is where I would start....
http://www.visualimpressions.ca/switch/

Test the starter lead at the ign. switch harness plug for power when key in start position.

If good, unplug the CIS and jump the plug, if that works, replace the CIS.

If still nothing, go to the starter relay and test for power at both the input and output, [heavy gauge leads], if you have power only at the input, [wiring from ign. switch good] but not the output, supply a ground directly to the CIS lead on the starter relay.

If still nothing, replace the starter relay, however if grounding the CIS input works, find the break in the CIS circuit. 94

sportsman1539

Here's an easy one to try and it takes just a second to check. Look at your clutch pedal and make sure the little tab is still there that pushes/ releases the button that allows you to crank up the car once the pedal is pushed in. Can't remember what that switch is called but I went through all these tests above and it ended up being that little tab in the clutch pedal.

HGZ

my car doesn't want to start sometimes as of lately, but i'm sure it's because the contacts on my battery terminals aren't as tight/snug as they should be, which is why everything else like the radio and windows work fine but not the starter.

if i bang on the contacts a bit, it'll get her going.

_dc4_

I did not have that little plastic stopper there when I checked. I managed to replace it with something else but, unfortunately, that did not solve the problem.. I hear a clicking coming from part #VF4-45F11 when I try and turn on the car. I searched up the number but it just says that it's a relay but it doesn't say for what..

Here's a pic

_dc4_

Normal ignition switch


Mine


That black "relay" is the one in my other post.
Can anyone tell me what that is? Alarm that was on the car maybe? Idk. But it clicks when I try and turn on the car...

sportsman1539

I know on my 92 there are 2 plastic stoppers on the clutch pedal. One is for starting the car and the other is for the cruise cancel I believe. I know those switches can go bad too. Im not too sure on the ignition switch though. Im just suggesting the easiest fixes first

btw, that looks like the starter relay in the pic. I dont know a lot about g3's but it looks like the starter relay

sportsman1539

Oh yea the switch on the clutch pedal is called the clutch interlock switch. Try jumping the plug with a paper clip. If it starts, the clutch interlock switch is bad. If that relay is clicking and that is indeed the starter relay in that pic, then it is good so you just need to find what comes next in the wiring diagram for the ignition system.

_dc4_

I thought it was the starter relay at first too but it's that I don't see it on any other ignition switches that are for sale so it makes me think why mine, if its the starter relay, be spliced onto my ignition switch.

sportsman1539

I just realized what cis stood for lol. Im banking on that being your problem. Now its the top switch on the pedal I believe. The first one is to cancel the cruise, the second one is the cis. While looking at the switch, push in the clutch pedal and make sure the button on the cis is being pressed/released(cant remember what which it does when the clutch pedal is pushed in). If you're good there, take the plug off of the cis and put a paper clip in each side of the plug. At this point you wont even need to push the clutch in to start it, just make sure its in neutral.

_dc4_

Wow -.- It was exactly that bro lol I couldn't get a good look at it yesterday but today when I looked at it I noticed the little stopper not there. I put a magnet on the clutch petal so everything is all good now. Car starts up fine!

Thanks for all the help fellas!

fcm

One last thing, the relay you have in the pic is not the starter relay, it is an aftermarket starter cut relay, part of an alarm. 94

sportsman1539

Great glad you got it figured out. I had the same exact thing happen to mine and went through all those tests and it was something so simple like that

_dc4_

Then I should be be able to remove all those wires, relating to that alarm, without any side affects right?

Blackhalo6

Not necessarily, you can't just cut the wires and call it a day. You have to undo everything and reconnect all the splices that were done to the original wire.

_dc4_

Right right. That's probably what ima end up doing cause there is a mess of wires down there from that alarm.

fcm

If that starter cut relay install is an indication of the rest of the alarm install, then pull it all out.

It may have not been the problem this time, but it is more then likely to be a problem at some point.

Easiest way to remove a messy alarm install is to drop alarm brain, unplug all the plugs/harnesses on the alarm brain, one by one fallow each alarm lead to where it is connected to the cars wiring, disconnect, repair and insulate any of the cars wiring exposed by the alarm wire connection.

There is most likely only one lead, "cut", starter lead in the ign. switch harnness that the relay is installed on, that one you will have to reconnect, solder and shrink tube. 94