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Old 11-28-2014, 04:56 PM
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I saw Jimmy's thread which reminded me... my viper alarm only locks my driver door not the pass. This is an issue as come spring the car will be on the roads and the last thing I need is some kid taking it. its an Rs so manual locks but the viper thing must come with a actuator of sorts. I can lock it if I reach over and flip the lock that's a pain tho, the plot twist is it opens both the doors if they're lovked tho but won't lock my pass side door. not sure of the model viper alarm it is I have the remote close by tho...thing that gets me is it "works" but it only 50% "works"
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You need a relay system. If your viper alarm came with actuators than you should following the wiring diagram.
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Default Re: viper alarm doesn't lock passenger side door. 98 Rs

Did your car come with power locks from the factory?
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Default Re: viper alarm doesn't lock passenger side door. 98 Rs

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You need a relay system. If your viper alarm came with actuators than you should following the wiring diagram.

I can only assume it has some sort of actuator as the car has manual locks only, no diagram car came with it. just find it strange that it won't lock the door but it opens it.

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Did your car come with power locks from the factory?
no its an Rs lol.
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Ok pop off the door panel on the passenger side and see if you can locate the actuators.
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I can only assume it has some sort of actuator as the car has manual locks only, no diagram car came with it. just find it strange that it won't lock the door but it opens it.



no its an Rs lol.
So it unlocks but doesn't lock correct?
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Default Re: viper alarm doesn't lock passenger side door. 98 Rs

You need to find the door lock actuators and see if they are 2 wire or 5 wire,

Also need to know what Viper alarm you have, find brain and get model number.

DEI alarms come with either low current neg. outputs, low current neg.-/pos.+ outputs or relays onboard, if yours have low current outputs a pair of relays would be needed to drive the actuators if relays are onboard, offboard relays are not needed, either way the relay outputs are parallel to the acutators and because the drivers side works properly the problwm can only be the pass. door actuator.

If you have 5wire actuators the problem may be the actuator or the door lock control unit. 94
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So it unlocks but doesn't lock correct?

the driver side works fine lock/unlock the passenger side only unlocks. so yah what you said.





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You need to find the door lock actuators and see if they are 2 wire or 5 wire,

Also need to know what Viper alarm you have, find brain and get model number.

DEI alarms come with either low current neg. outputs, low current neg.-/pos.+ outputs or relays onboard, if yours have low current outputs a pair of relays would be needed to drive the actuators if relays are onboard, offboard relays are not needed, either way the relay outputs are parallel to the acutators and because the drivers side works properly the problwm can only be the pass. door actuator.

If you have 5wire actuators the problem may be the actuator or the door lock control unit. 94
Ok, i'll take the door panels off asap and see, the brain is tucked underneath the dash can read the number pretty easily.

thanks for the detailed description.
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Ok so it looks like they tried to add the oem power door locks but didn't wire everything up properly, Or they used aftermarket actuators did use a relay system, but the wire for the passenger side fell loose.
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Ok so it looks like they tried to add the oem power door locks but didn't wire everything up properly, Or they used aftermarket actuators did use a relay system, but the wire for the passenger side fell loose.
OP said the passenger side only unlocks, so the signal is being sent from the brain to the actuator. I would assume the locks worked normally at some time and suddenly failed to lock the passenger door.

Remove the passenger door panel and locate the actuator. When you do, use your alarm remote to lock and unlock the doors. Observe the movements of the actuator to confirm its functioning correctly.

Its most likely an actuator issue. The actuator might not be mounted correctly, the lock rod connection might need adjustment, or maybe the actuator no longer works in one direction.
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RS model never came with power doorlocks, so again either they tried to add oem power door locks or they added actuators.
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RS model never came with power doorlocks, so again either they tried to add oem power door locks or they added actuators.
Obviously...

No one disagreed with the fact that the RS did not come with factory power locks or that actuators were used. Not exactly sure what your point is.
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Obviously...

No one disagreed with the fact that the RS did not come with factory power locks or that actuators were used. Not exactly sure what your point is.
I'm not sure why you repeated everything that was said, I asked him the right questions and he's already respond. So why are you repeating it back to me?

Again, he needs to take off the door panel and confirm if they are aftermarket or oem. Also, again, either a wire came loose or corroded.
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I'm not sure why you repeated everything that was said, I asked him the right questions and he's already respond. So why are you repeating it back to me?

Again, he needs to take off the door panel and confirm if they are aftermarket or oem. Also, again, either a wire came loose or corroded.
They're aftermarket... Anyone willing to go through the task of installing OEM actuators would also wire up the door lock switches since its already wired into the door harness he would need to replace. Notice he mentions "I can lock it if I reach over and flip the lock that's a pain tho".

I doubt its a loose or corroded wire. It's the actuator itself.
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They're aftermarket... Anyone willing to go through the task of installing OEM actuators would also wire up the door lock switches since its already wired into the door harness he would need to replace. Notice he mentions "I can lock it if I reach over and flip the lock that's a pain tho".

I doubt its a loose or corroded wire. It's the actuator itself.
I will wait for his response before assuming too much.
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I finally have some power to the car...enough to lock/unlock doors, the pass side does lock some times by that I mean it's getting stuck halfway through the cycle nothing looks bent. When I say getting stuck you kinda have to press the lock button twice fir it to actually lock, and even then it doesn't "always" do it. any suggestion take it off and grease something like the slider arm could it be at the wrong angle causing it to bind? it was way worse with the door card on.


Cliffs: it works but it gets stuck most times there's a few times it did fully lock properly, those rings are just the remainder of a dust boot I think.

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Just replace the actuator and eliminate the headache. Lubricating the slide arm wont do a thing. If it's beginning to act up now, it will only get worse. The actuator costs less than $10 to replace.
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Default Re: viper alarm doesn't lock passenger side door. 98 Rs

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I will wait for his response before assuming too much.
Like I said before...
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They're aftermarket... Anyone willing to go through the task of installing OEM actuators would also wire up the door lock switches since its already wired into the door harness he would need to replace. Notice he mentions "I can lock it if I reach over and flip the lock that's a pain tho".

I doubt its a loose or corroded wire. It's the actuator itself.
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Just replace the actuator and eliminate the headache. Lubricating the slide arm wont do a thing. If it's beginning to act up now, it will only get worse. The actuator costs less than $10 to replace.
ok figured that, just take it off and go to my local audio/security store.
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Just make sure when you re-install the new actuator to have the lock rod move freely and in a straight line motion. Re-Position the actuator differently if you need to in order to have it clear of obstructions.
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put the door panel on and it sticks again noting new, I noticed the driver is mounted on the 5th hole up on that strip and the passenger on the 6th. I'm all for doing it right but when I had the panel off it would lock it 60% if not more of the time vs NEVER with the door panel on, i'm "ok" with not running a passenger door card but it looks ghetto AF. Again it unlocks super fast but cant lock which maybe makes be think its the rod that pushes vs pulls
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Like I said before...
He never said before if they were aftermarket or not. I've been able to install the oem power doorlocks before on my RS and its not an impossible task.
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put the door panel on and it sticks again noting new, I noticed the driver is mounted on the 5th hole up on that strip and the passenger on the 6th. I'm all for doing it right but when I had the panel off it would lock it 60% if not more of the time vs NEVER with the door panel on, i'm "ok" with not running a passenger door card but it looks ghetto AF. Again it unlocks super fast but cant lock which maybe makes be think its the rod that pushes vs pulls
Take off the panel and tell me how the solenoids try to pull/push to lock/unlock? Or a video.
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that arm is connected to a rod it either pushes it to lock it or pulls to unlock it's a simple actuator. the door card is causing it to stick where I have no idea tho. it's not strong enough to mark up the panel on the inside.


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