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Old 02-20-2008, 04:05 PM   #1
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I lowered my car and now when i make u-turns it hits the inside of my fenders. Can i take those off or something. I can hear it when i make u turns. and how do people slam there car all the way down and it dont happen to them.heres a pix

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what size wheels you running? sounds like your on 17's? but you might want to either try rolling your fenders or taking the plastic inner lining or whatever of the fender off in the wheel well. Wheel size would be helpful though
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That looks like your fender liners. You can remove those and it'll give you much more room in your wheel well.
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dude you have to remove those fender liners & roll the fender while you're at it
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dude you have to remove those fender liners & roll the fender while you're at it
are you guys retarded? ok remove those liners...good idea.
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are you guys retarded? ok remove those liners...good idea.
I cant remember the last time I had fender liners, it's been that long.
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but wouldnt things go inside my engine bay? What about all the cars that has there car slammed do they have there fender lines or they lso took it out
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but wouldnt things go inside my engine bay? What about all the cars that has there car slammed do they have there fender lines or they lso took it out
Yes...or more than before at least.

It really depends on what size wheel/tire you have. The larger the wheel and the lower the drop means that you're more than likely to rub your fender liner.

If you dont remove it, eventually you'll shred it open anyways.
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i have 17's and my tires are 205-40-17. But i seen some slammed cars with 17's and its more lowered then mine. If I take off my fender liners is there any way I can prevent anything from going inside my engine?
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i have 17's and my tires are 205-40-17. But i seen some slammed cars with 17's and its more lowered then mine. If I take off my fender liners is there any way I can prevent anything from going inside my engine?
Ah 17's. That's why you're rubbing.

Nothing is going to go inside your engine, that's what air filters are for. However, you might have a dirtier engine bay.
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Ah 17's. That's why you're rubbing.
WRONG. What matters is the outer diameter of the tire, not the diameter of the wheel. The outer diameter of the 205/40-17 tires is exactly the same as the stock 195/55-15 size on the GS-R and ITR.

There are three things that can affect rubbing: how much the car is lowered, the size of the tire, and the positioning of the tire (via offset and width). With a 205/40-17 tire, you won't have any rubbing as long as the car isn't lowered too much (i.e. less than 2") and as long as the wheels have the proper offset, to position the tires in the wheel well so that they have the most clearance. Either you lowered your car too much, or your wheels have the wrong offset so they stick out too far or are pushed in too much.

Removing the fender liners is not a good idea. Without them, when the tires kick up stones on the road, they can hit the underside of the fender and cause reverse dents.
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i always cut my fender liners. i use just enough of the liner closest to the door so that snow/dirt doesnt get in my door jam. the top part is then thrown away. wont hurt anything if you run none, i just to mine to keep the door jam and sideskirts from getting clogged with dirt and snow. Click the image to open in full size.
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i might just buy some 15's or 16's on the front and leave the rear just same 15 or 16...what do you guys suggest
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WRONG. What matters is the outer diameter of the tire, not the diameter of the wheel. The outer diameter of the 205/40-17 tires is exactly the same as the stock 195/55-15 size on the GS-R and ITR.
Not exactly wrong. Dont you agree that his 17" wheels is exactly why he's rubbing? Because of he's slammed (3" drop or more) on 17" wheels and most likely has a tire larger than 205/40. It goes without saying that a properly sized tire/wheel combination would not cause the tire to rub.

By not taking into consideration offset, tire width, and diameter - someone who goes with a 17" wheel is bound to have problems. Better he stick with 15 or 16 inch.

Had he known all about proper wheel sizing, there would be no need to inqure in the first place.
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Not exactly wrong. Dont you agree that his 17" wheels is exactly why he's rubbing? Because of he's slammed (3" drop or more) on 17" wheels and most likely has a tire larger than 205/40. It goes without saying that a properly sized tire/wheel combination would not cause the tire to rub.

By not taking into consideration offset, tire width, and diameter - someone who goes with a 17" wheel is bound to have problems. Better he stick with 15 or 16 inch.

Had he known all about proper wheel sizing, there would be no need to inqure in the first place.
correction! check out the link provided. using the most common tire sizes for a civic/integra. if you compare the overall diameter of the stock 195/55r15 & the 205/40r17, there is very minimal difference. therefore if the wheels have the correct offset, the inner fender liners should not scrub.

c'mon, how many other cars are out there that share the civic/integra bolt pattern & come with a low offset? hmm, late 80's bimmer, 80's celica, old school datsun. i highly doubt that anyione who owns any of those classics will rice it up with cheap replica wheels!! Click the image to open in full size.

the 17" wheel package should not be any taller than the stock 15" so it's should clear, given that the car's not slammed! Click the image to open in full size.

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nsxtasy- great suggestion! Click the image to open in full size.
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are you guys retarded? ok remove those liners...good idea.
is that all you have to writte dumb @$$?
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WRONG. What matters is the outer diameter of the tire, not the diameter of the wheel. The outer diameter of the 205/40-17 tires is exactly the same as the stock 195/55-15 size on the GS-R and ITR.

There are three things that can affect rubbing: how much the car is lowered, the size of the tire, and the positioning of the tire (via offset and width). With a 205/40-17 tire, you won't have any rubbing as long as the car isn't lowered too much (i.e. less than 2") and as long as the wheels have the proper offset, to position the tires in the wheel well so that they have the most clearance. Either you lowered your car too much, or your wheels have the wrong offset so they stick out too far or are pushed in too much.

Removing the fender liners is not a good idea. Without them, when the tires kick up stones on the road, they can hit the underside of the fender and cause reverse dents.
you probably have the right offset is my guess. you can try going back to your old wheels or 15s or 16s, but i don't think that'll make a difference as the 205 40 17 is the same size as the 195 55 15 stock size tire. How much did you lower your car? any exterior pictures? ... cause it looks slazaaaaammed. any negative camber? if you stick with the 17s and continue rubbing, it will eventually rub away the part that's in contact with the fender liner... you'll eventually be able to run the 17s (or whatever other tire size) and not have rubbing because of the hole that's created and still be able to block MOST of the junk flying up (except the stuff flying through the hole)... not too bad of an option... if you want to half-*** it. it'd be a half-*** medium Click the image to open in full size.
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i might just buy some 15's or 16's on the front and leave the rear just same 15 or 16...what do you guys suggest
Do whatever you want. But your wheel diameter and tire size is not causing your problem. The rubbing is caused either by the wrong offset, or by lowering your car too much. If it's the wrong offset and you want to replace the wheels, get a set of four 15's (195/55-15 or 205/50-15 tires) or four 16's (205/45-16 tires).

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Dont you agree that his 17" wheels is exactly why he's rubbing?
No, not at all. You can use 17" wheels with 205/40-17 tires and they won't rub at all - IF they're the proper offset, and IF the car isn't hugely slammed (no more than 2"). I think 15" or 16" are better choices, but 17" won't necessarily rub.

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Because of he's slammed (3" drop or more) on 17" wheels
If so, then the problem is that he dropped the car too much.

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most likely has a tire larger than 205/40.
Nope. He already told us his tire size is 205/40-17.

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It goes without saying that a properly sized tire/wheel combination would not cause the tire to rub.
That's true. And he HAS a properly-sized tire/wheel combination. 17" wheels with 205/40-17 tires do not cause the tires to rub. So the cause is either the wrong offset on the wheels, or lowering the car too much.

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By not taking into consideration offset, tire width, and diameter - someone who goes with a 17" wheel is bound to have problems.
True. But 17" wheels do not cause problems (unless the offset is wrong) and 205/40-17 tires do not cause problems. His tire width and diameter are NOT causing his problems. NOT. As in... NOT.

I can say it again if you like.

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Had he known all about proper wheel sizing, there would be no need to inqure in the first place.
Wrong again. 17" wheels and 205/40-17 tires do NOT cause rubbing problems, as long as the wheel offset is correct and the car is not overly slammed.

How many times are you going to keep saying the same wrong information?

As a general rule, tires will not rub as long as:

a. the tires are not more than 20 mm wider than stock;

b. the tire diameter is not more than 1 percent more than stock;

c. the wheel offset is the best, i.e. allows for the most clearance in the wheel wells; and

d. the car is not lowered more than two inches.

The calculated outer diameter for 195/55-15 is 23.445". The calculated outer diameter for 205/40-17 is 23.457". So the difference in diameter is around .01" (about .05 percent).

In this case, of the four possible reasons for rubbing, both (a) and (b) are okay. The rubbing is being caused by the wrong offset, or too much lowering, or both.

One other possibility is a suspension problem - blown shocks, bent control arm, something like that.

The rubbing is definitely NOT caused by the wheel diameter or the tire size. NOT.
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i did lower my car like 3 inches or more with 17's its tucking tires right now. if i buy 16's will i be able to slam it coz i want to slam my ride
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i always cut my fender liners. i use just enough of the liner closest to the door so that snow/dirt doesnt get in my door jam. the top part is then thrown away. wont hurt anything if you run none, i just to mine to keep the door jam and sideskirts from getting clogged with dirt and snow. Click the image to open in full size.
Damn good idea! My car is pretty low also, running 215/40/17, not too sure about offset, but trust me guys it gets really annoying when you drive in puddles or in rain and all the rocks and dirt gets into your door jam and side skirts. Once you open your door after a drive it gets sooo dirty. I wish the person who i bought the car from kept it because there was so much dirt that when i open the door sometimes it squeals and it took off some paint... my SSBP!
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Stick with 205/40-17 on an Integra.
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