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Old 03-19-2014, 07:26 AM
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So i jacked my car up by the lower control arm and proceeded to put the jack stand under the rear jack point and went to lower the car on the jack stand and it bent the jack point and crushed some of my rocker panel... i am stunned at the fact it bent and have no idea of how to go about fixing it? pics below.[IMG][/IMG]
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Mmmm, crunchy! That jack point is beyond help.

Put the stand under the frame rail under the trunk, behind the axle line.
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Well i cant leave it as is the car is honestly very clean other then the pass rocker panel, it will for sure rot out there seeing the mess i created. My question is how can i go about fixing it, But thanks for letting me know i could put them on the rear frame rail i didnt know that.
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cut out that whole section and weld in new metal.
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It's hard to tell with that picture, but are you sure you jacked it up on the pinch weld? I mean the only way it could fail is if it was completely rusted through.
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It's hard to tell with that picture, but are you sure you jacked it up on the pinch weld? I mean the only way it could fail is if it was completely rusted through.
I didnt jack it up on the jack point, i jacked it up on the rear lca and went to put it down on the jack stand and it bent as i put pressure on it, and yes it was put in the right spot ive done it hundreds of times on this car..
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cut out that whole section and weld in new metal.
Will i need to cut my rocker panel? if so will i need new a rocker panel? what will i be getting into basically?
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I can see the pinch weld is rusted all to hell, that is most likely why it "bent".

As has been mentioned, to only fix, [proper fix] is to cut out all the rusted metal and replace with new, lots of work. 94
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Will i need to cut my rocker panel? if so will i need new a rocker panel? what will i be getting into basically?
possibly depends on how far the rust has spread, you're getting into some heavy body repair I had a rusted section above my rockers and I took the plunge and cut it all out and had new metal welded in. In my case I had it fixed for 80$ that's at a body shop that I'm friends with the owner but I'd say it's sub 200$ worth of work paint etc included.


"no rust" is a big selling point here in the GTA/further north guys come here all the time to buy cars vs us looking for cars further north so if you plan on keeping it for a few years more I'd say do it if not well I guess you could weld something over it but I don't recommend that.
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Well i cant leave it as is the car is honestly very clean other then the pass rocker panel, it will for sure rot out there seeing the mess i created. My question is how can i go about fixing it
You didn't create that mess. That mess is the result of severe rust.

Your car looks great from the outside. The inside is dead. You cannot fix this properly without spending days and thousands of dollars. Plus you'll need to know how to weld. Maybe you can get a quick-and-dirty cosmetic fix for a lot cheaper, but that will be unlikely to give you a working jack point.

Bend it back in place as best you can, rattle-can the paint, and leave it alone.
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You didn't create that mess. That mess is the result of severe rust.

Your car looks great from the outside. The inside is dead. You cannot fix this properly without spending days and thousands of dollars. Plus you'll need to know how to weld. Maybe you can get a quick-and-dirty cosmetic fix for a lot cheaper, but that will be unlikely to give you a working jack point.

Bend it back in place as best you can, rattle-can the paint, and leave it alone.
Listen man your not helping with all this negative talk bullshit, the car isnt a rust bucket its been in my family since new so i know whats rusted and whats not, so if i wanted anyone to sit here and tell me my cars junk i'd post it on craigslist. So just stop with the commentary your really not helping any thanks.
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
possibly depends on how far the rust has spread, you're getting into some heavy body repair I had a rusted section above my rockers and I took the plunge and cut it all out and had new metal welded in. In my case I had it fixed for 80$ that's at a body shop that I'm friends with the owner but I'd say it's sub 200$ worth of work paint etc included.


"no rust" is a big selling point here in the GTA/further north guys come here all the time to buy cars vs us looking for cars further north so if you plan on keeping it for a few years more I'd say do it if not well I guess you could weld something over it but I don't recommend that.

The rust hasnt spread to the quarter panels nor anywhere else. Its just that fact i had bottomed out the passenger side rocker panel last year as we put in on a car trailer and it did some damage which was neglected, so that is why that rocker panel is in such bad shape. With that being said i am taking it to my buddys body shop to have it checked out in person.

And yes i plan on keeping it, my family has owned the car since new and i have loved the car all growing up and they finally gave in and let me have it. so i cant half *** the thing im kinda **** when it comes to doing things right the first time.
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Originally Posted by 92f22a6
i know whats rusted and whats not
You'd better take a good hard look at that photo you originally posted. It shows a car with severe rust at the usual location where Integras usually end up with severe rust.

You may not want to believe the car is badly rusted in that location, but it is.

Your feelings might be hurt, but that doesn't change the fact that this vehicle has terminal rust which has destroyed the structural integrity of the jacking point.
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That whole area looks like a stack of dried leaves. I TOTALLY get being attached to your car but there's a point where keeping it isn't fiscally responsible. Unless that pic is VERY decieving it looks like you're very near that point.


I wish you luck with whatever you choose to do but I think Tegger is just trying to be a realist and save you money.
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The inside of the quarter panel is hollow. The car has rusted from the inside and what you are seeing now is the rust making it through that metal. Your car may not look like a rustbucket but there is some major rust going on the inside there. People are not trying to bully you -- they are just trying to make you realize that you have a serious problem brewing.
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People are not trying to bully you
I am totally baffled why, these days, criticism or negative comments (even if accurate and factual) are now considered "bullying" or "h8ing".

Is this a result of the current school emphasis on making sure nobody ever feels bad? Is it the result of how teachers and activists want to "fill your bucket" at any cost instead of letting you face reality even if it hurts?

Life hurts sometimes.
Truth hurts, but is still truth even if you don't like it.
Criticism and negativism is NOT "bullying".
Get used to it.
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LOL for one i never said anyone was bullying anyone all i was saying was that "THEREALTEGGER" wasnt helping AT ALL by saying **** about the rust. I know that i had a rust issue there i just wanted to now how to go about fixing it and only two post's in this whole topic were actually helpful, either way i took it to a body shop and they said it isnt that bad. Gonna cost me 250 to cut and replace and that includes paint so thanks for nothing guys.
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Gonna cost me 250 to cut and replace and that includes paint so thanks for nothing guys.
That $250 quote must come from a friend of yours who isn't trying to cover his costs with your job.

Assuming a $40/hr shop rate and no materials or paint, that allows 6.25 hours, which is not much for a structural repair of this nature. Then you need to put materials and paint on that. And good-quality paint starts at $500 no matter how little you put on there.

My quote for such a job, properly done, would be more like $1,000-$1,500. And that's likely low, by industry standards.
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250 plus paint? Good luck with that, man
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