Vallamost

I've got a 1996 Acura GSR.

My lines are rusted to hell (Thank you, Honda engineering team, for covering them with some cheap plastic covering that holds all kinds of salt and crap in them) - Photo here - https://i.imgur.com/g1KOG5y.png



My options look to be -

1. Take it to a shop, pay over $750 in labor with parts. I've read and heard people having to drop the gas tank and parts in the front to replace the entire lines.. A Honda dealership was quoting over $1000.

2. Devise some way to cut out the the rusted out parts and make a compressed fitting. From what I can see it's impossible to cut the rusted lines without bending them. Unless I'm mistaken? A basic pipe cutting tool will not fit in between the lines.

I have 2 jack stands and a simple jack.

Can anyone please advise?

wunfstgsr

You dont have a junk yard you can get the lines from! around here that would be around a few hundred bucks with parts installed at the junk yard.

Check online if you can find the lines for a resonable price and have them replaced.

B_Swapped93

From someone(me) who removed all the stock fuel lines to run -AN lines for race gas, it's beyond frustrating and that's with the engine out. The best, cheapest and fastest is cut and flare in a new section, a garage won't charge too much for that. Is this your winter beater?/how far north do you live those brake lines aren't lasting a lot longer if you see another winter. If it's just a beater weight the cost of a cheap EK against the labour and any potential future issues. Cheap clean running civic's are maybe 1.7K here and that's on the higher end.




@fastgsr I think anyone would be VERY hard pressed to find a junkyard that lets you bring jacks and lift the cars of the ground, around here the cars are taken off their wheels and dropped on the ground pretty much running anything under it. They have all sorts of insurance liability's we have to wear reflective vests all sorts of stuff, plus everything is rusted to **** here after a few days in the yard.

Vallamost

I had a dealership give me the part numbers and I found replacements online but I haven't bothered ordering them, I just don't know how I'd go about replacing the lines. I can't find any pipe cutting tool that will fit between them. They look like a major pain in the *** to replace.

Thank you. I'm in the Midwest, we already have snow and cold weather

Do you know how the shop would cut and flare a new section?

I can't think of or find a tool that could cut one of the lines as they have almost no room next to them. But I'm up for this option if it's than $200 This is just a fun project car that I want to sell off to a friend. I have reliable transportation already.

B_Swapped93

The only experience of doing flaring I have is from when I went to school, it's frustrating you can watch a video on you tube it's easy if you're patient. As for cost generic gas line is cheap it's the skill of doing it that takes time/if you have to pay someone, you may want to reconsider this project imho.

You pull the line down(very gently) from the top clip and cut the section with the tool provided in the kit. Here's the one I have SAE Standard Bubble ISO Metric Double Single Tube Brake Line Flare Flaring KIT | eBay

Vallamost

Thanks, I'm confident I can flare it. I'm able to rent a decent flaring for free. I just don't understand how part of the line can be pulled down. Wouldn't I need to replace the whole line? Or what do you mean by pull it down?

B_Swapped93

those plastic bands that hold all 4 lines pry them upon and lift out the line that you need to fix, if the whole line is fucked just snip where it's bad.

wunfstgsr

Yea i forget most junk yards dont have a garrage, over here at our local honda parts lot in the junk yard they have a small garrage with lift and a cert. mech that does all the labor for anything neaded from the junk yard installed, i had them install a power steering conversion in my civic for $250 with parts. They dont charge much at all to and the mech is super good and fast. But yea i must of forgot not all yards have that.

MotorMouth93

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Probably a stupid question, but is there any reason why you couldn't cut out the rusted lines and splice a rubber fuel line using hose clamps in it's place?

B_Swapped93

Solid steel vs rubber that's the issue as a temp fix sure but long term it's iffy, I know that later part of the line is rubber. I wouldn't want something rubber under the car

JDM-EJ698

Now you could probably get away with rubber lines for a short time while you find used replacements. You could run the rubber hose inside a pipe to make it last longer. Just an idea.

Vallamost

But how low will the line go once it's out of the plastic bands? Will I have enough clearance to cut around the other lines?

What do you recommend snipping the line with? Is there a special steel line cutting that won't bend the line?

B_Swapped93

If you undo all of them it will be MORE than enough, something should come with the kid to do that. or just google it I only have experience with -AN line.

Vallamost

Thanks. Can you give me the name of what the tool is to clip the lines, I'm happy to google it I just don't know what it's called.

B_Swapped93

a generic metal tube cutter from a parts store, just tell them what you're doing they should be capable enough there's no real name for it.

Vallamost

Oh you mean a tube cutter? I had one then took it back thinking there's no way I'd be able to rotate it all the around the line because of how close they are together. Are you thinking that I'll have room once I drop the line?

B_Swapped93

you "should" the problem is I just undid them as if to complete remove it all they did come down a fait bit tho before I dropped the tank. buy the tool and undo the clips if it's not enough room return it but i'm pretty confident you'll be ok just undo any brackets/clips under the car.