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Old 05-30-2011, 09:55 PM   #1
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Default NEED HELP TIMING GSR!

like the title says... cam gears are timed perfectly... however, the dizzy was just replaced... everyone says to "adjust to desired rpm" that doesnt work in my case because i have no set screw in my throttle body. the plug that is supposed to be removable to put the timing light on the flywheel to check for timing is a metal piece and its welded in... wtf??? what now??? im lost... how do i get it timed right...
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Take a picture of what you're referring too!
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okay i said this all sorts of ****in retarted... on the crank pully there should be a mark that lines up with the arrow on the plastic cover on the side of the block. i have no mark on my pully anywhere, and the cover is supposed to have 10 and 5 showing degrees before TDC i dont have that either... so idk how the hell to time it, it makes no sence to me...
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The timing cover only has one mark indicating TDC.

What pulley are you using? All stock pulleys have marks like this ||| |.

The three marks "usually in red" indicate your ignition timing. middle is 16*BTDC. The single mark is white and determines TDC.
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The timing cover only has one mark indicating TDC.

What pulley are you using? All stock pulleys have marks like this ||| |.

The three marks "usually in red" indicate your ignition timing. middle is 16*BTDC. The single mark is white and determines TDC.
stock pully but theres no marks man i looked and looked then looked again. its really dumb... so your saying the far right mark is 0 and the second from the left is 16? what are the other two?
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It's labeled TDC not 0. Middle of the three marks is 16* BTDC. The other two are +2 and -2 from 16. So 18* and 14*
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It's labeled TDC not 0. Middle of the three marks is 16* BTDC. The other two are +2 and -2 from 16. So 18* and 14*
okay, but i didnt see any marks on my pully they should be on the face of the pully right? then how do you time it with the light?
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Look on this link.

http://www.clubintegra.com/board/showthread.php?t=54312


For the timing light, look it up on youtube. There is a clip on it of a dude showing how to do it. Sorry I don't feel like typing it all out.
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Look on this link.

http://www.clubintegra.com/board/showthread.php?t=54312


For the timing light, look it up on youtube. There is a clip on it of a dude showing how to do it. Sorry I don't feel like typing it all out.
okay i got the link. and i think i watched the video your talking about, but that doesnt help me when the motors in my car, and the marks are not there lol... idk wht to do..
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also he is showing theres 2 different timing idle timing and reved timing. i have a standard dizzy idk how to set it to two different idles. doesnt make much sence to me... ik wiring, and mechanics, but timing isint something i do on the daily lol... but i guess you have to learn somewhere.
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Get a different pulley with the marks. You only set ignition timing at idle.

To make it easier leave the timing gun set to 0. You will see the marks on the crank pulley, you align the middle mark 16* btdc with the mark on the lower timing belt cover.
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http://youtu.be/sGzxCCaxDjI
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Get a different pulley with the marks. You only set ignition timing at idle.

To make it easier leave the timing gun set to 0. You will see the marks on the crank pulley, you align the middle mark 16* btdc with the mark on the lower timing belt cover.
okay why leave it at 0? and damn im sick of spending money on this damn thing lol. im about to ready to just look up the gaps and make my own freakin marks lol. ive had problems with this swap for 5 months, finally down to timing today. and now i hve to go buy a new pully... i call schananagans. lol
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Some timing guns are more advance, and if you are not skilled enough just leave at 0. The video explains it.

A pulley is not that expensive. Craigslist my friend.
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i live in bum fukk no where lol. but ill check it out. thanks for the help. also i dont have power stearing or ac, so is there any point to have the other 2 pullys? only one i need is the alt pully which is off of the crank pully isint it? or am i really just that tired lol
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LOL, all three belts are hooked up to the crank pulley. Alternator belt is closest to the motor. Power steering in the middle and a/c on the outer. Might be vice versa on the power steering and a/c but you don't have them so no worries.

You'll be fine with no a/c or power steering belts hooked up.
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Chances are your pully has the dents in the metal (for the timing marks) but that for whatever reason the paint is gone.

I went down to an auto parts store and picked up a paint pen - in yellow. They have a roller-ball point like some pens but have paint you can get in multiple colors (white, yellow, red, etc).

Get a bright light, find the marks, use a pen to repaint them - and then you can use the timing light.. the marks are on the inside (closest to block) edge of the damper (big pulley on the crankshaft).

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They are more like notches than marks...there should be there if you are using the OEM pulley...
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got it done guys, thanks for the help
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LOL, all three belts are hooked up to the crank pulley. Alternator belt is closest to the motor. Power steering in the middle and a/c on the outer. Might be vice versa on the power steering and a/c but you don't have them so no worries.

You'll be fine with no a/c or power steering belts hooked up.
i dont have ac or power stearing, those pullys are gone not just the belts lol.
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