dc2doi

I just can't seem to get this crank pulley bolt to budge.

I tried holding the flywheel with a bar and breaking it loose,
all it did was break my snap on tool.

I also tried the Impact gun, I got a IR-2135.
http://www.amazon.com/Ingersol...SRM7E
Suppose to be 1000ft of torque.
Air compressor was set to about 95-100psi.
The thing wouldn't budge.

I've even used PB blaster.

Any idea what I can do? If i can't take the bolt off
I still want to do the timing, maybe drop the oil pan and slide it in?

RCautoworks

Take it to a shop, have them blast it off then tighten it slightly. We do this free for locals if they need it.

all-mtr-teg

what setting did you have the gun at?

dc2doi

Gun is set at the longest bar on the gun on the back. I'm pretty sure thats the strongest setting.

all-mtr-teg

just checking, i had the same problem once, until i realized i had the damn gun at the lowest setting, that's what i get for wrenching in the dark.

dc2doi

Anyone?

RCautoworks

Pump the psi on the air compressor up.

LordAphotic

ok this is what i did. Make sure the flywheel is installed. without the clutch on it.

Now get a piece of cardboard and lay it against the flywheel and poke it with nails where the clutch bolts on that way you have the bolt pattern.... Now lay that cardboard on a 2X6 piece of wood and drill the wood...

Next get some bolts that will fit those holes and your flywheel holes... i recomend the bolts used for the AC compressor... the super long ones....

Make sure your Piece of wood is right next to the flywheel so you dont end up bending the bolts....

Get a socket ment for an impact gun...

Get a long *** pipe to use as a breaker bar... about 5-8 feet depending how much you weigh...

use a craftsman wrench or breaker bar or something stronger cause anything else you use will most likelye break....

now have someone hold the 2X6. and the longer that piece of wood is the easier its gona be to hold it in place...... if its atleast 3 or 4 feet long it shouldnt be hard to hold it in place...

and combined with your long *** breaker bar it should break loose. once u get it to turn a little it will be loose enough so u can remove the wood and bolts.


Make sure to thread the bolts all the way in but dont go passed the flywheel.


Try to get ATLEAST 3 bolts through the wood... thats all i needed and i had an incredibly stubburn crankpulley bolt.

LordAphotic

oh yeah.. and just so u know.... just cause u have a powerfull impact gun doesnt mean your going to get it off.... there is a propper tool to hold the crankpulley in place so u can loosen it....

and another fact.... The more CFM u have going to ur gun the more power it will put out.... if can be rated for up to 1000ft-lbs but if u put a hose thats skinny onto it... it wont put out anything close to that.... so if u want to get the most torque out of your air tools make sure u have a nice big hose that can deliver more CFM at a faster rate.

adam081904

There is a tool on amazon that holds the crank for you. I'm at work i got it saved at home. But it does not cost very much. like under 30 bucks i think. I will repost when i get home give you the link.

lugrench

i had the same problem a while back. pop your starter off and wedge a good size crow bar in the flywheel. after 3 hours that was what did it for me, popped right off. this sounded a little nuts to me but i also heard about taking a spark plug out and dropping some good nylon rope in the cylinder to bind it up. not sure i'd try it but it sounds good. good luck.

skata89

that tool is your best bet. ill see if i can find a pic of it.

http://www.amazon.com/Alltrade...TMLWQ

thats what you need to get. It worked like a charm for me with out using impact tools.

PatrickGSR94

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That crank pulley tool is pointless when you're using air tools.

I also have an IR impact wrench that does 600+ lb-ft in reverse, powered by a Craftsman 6 CFM @ 90 psi compressor. It works great on my car. When I changed the timing belt on my brother's del Sol, I thought at first it wasn't going to get it off. Normally I'm a stickler for running air tools ONLY at the specified 90 psi setting, but for that one time I cranked it up to about 120 psi and hit it for about 1 second and it came right off.

dc2doi

Still not able to take out that damn crank pulley bolt. I cranked the PSI to 125.

Any idea of how to get the timing belt in there without taking the crank pulley out?

DeadVet

Heat the bolt up and it will come off

be.twenty

a good impact with some good torque should pop it off with no problem.. had no problems with crank pulley bolt when i did my motor swap

PatrickGSR94

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2doi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still not able to take out that damn crank pulley bolt. I cranked the PSI to 125.

Any idea of how to get the timing belt in there without taking the crank pulley out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are the specs of your compressor? That gun needs a constant 5 CFM @ 90 psi and at least a 3/8" air hose. If your compressor only barely sends out 5 or less CFM @ 90 psi, and you're using the cheap@$$ little plastic coiling air hose that come with most compressors, that's not going to cut it. A large tank helps, also.

My setup makes VERY quick work of both axle nuts and crank pulley bolts. It puts out a solid 6 CFM @ 90, and my IR gun only requires around 4.6 CFM to develop 600 ft-lb in reverse.



I've had that setup since Christmas, and I love it. Now I'm about to build a riser platform for the tank to sit on, and then attach an electronic drain valve to the bottom of the tank that will spit out a small amount of air and whatever moisture has collected in the bottom of the tank at whatever interval I choose. That way I can keep the tank full of air at all times and not have to worry about the tank rusting out and exploding.

LordAphotic

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Any idea of how to get the timing belt in there without taking the crank pulley out?</TD></TR></TABLE>

DUDE! i gave u a guaranteed way to get it off.... and if u cant get it off at this point then thats ur fault .... cause my way will get it off.

StreetRacinThug

Well here is the thing guys, I had this same problem at my cousins, there are some cars that the bolts zip off and there are others where you need the tool and a bar! On my cousins prelude tried air and the bar he has and nothing!!!!

Finally did the last and worst thing was, HEAT!!

Sat there with the welder and just heated the **** bright red and hit it with the impact BLA nothing still!

Tried againt bright bright red and brrrr Zoooom! Came of cousin bought a new seal and called it a day!

Some are easier than others. I guess if your like Patrick GSR and have a nice *** setup like that it wouldnt be to difficult. But not all can get stuff like that

EARLdaSQUIRREL

if it doesnt seem to come off, then i always change the gun to tighten and then back to loosen a couple times and the bolt will come flying out, your gun is pretty sick and should get that bolt off no problem

just keep tightening and loosening it and it will come off, dont use heat....

PatrickGSR94

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your gun is pretty sick and should get that bolt off no problem

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It's all about the compressor. My same impact gun on my dad's air compressor would not get my crank pulley bolt off. On my air compressor, at the same PSI setting, it got it right off.

dc2doi

I already tried having someone hold the flywheel in place and using the impact.
I broke one of the tools with the breaker bar.


PatrickGSR94:
I have a pretty good setup as well.
Craftsman air compressor 5hp 20gal.
a good hose. The damn bolt was freaking stuck.


But anyways I got it off today.
Heres what I did.

Had someone hold the flywheel, while I stock a socket on
with a wrench then just hammer it for a while.
Used the impact and it came right off.

dwolsten

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've had that setup since Christmas, and I love it. Now I'm about to build a riser platform for the tank to sit on, and then attach an electronic drain valve to the bottom of the tank that will spit out a small amount of air and whatever moisture has collected in the bottom of the tank at whatever interval I choose. That way I can keep the tank full of air at all times and not have to worry about the tank rusting out and exploding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How do you like that compressor? I've been thinking of getting one like that, but then I read from different sources that the oil-free compressors are extremely noisy, and that the oil-lubricated ones are quiet and more reliable. Unfortunately, the oil-lubricated compressors are only found in really large sizes, with huge tanks and usually requiring 220V wiring, and cost $500-1000.

PatrickGSR94

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How do you like that compressor? I've been thinking of getting one like that, but then I read from different sources that the oil-free compressors are extremely noisy, and that the oil-lubricated ones are quiet and more reliable. Unfortunately, the oil-lubricated compressors are only found in really large sizes, with huge tanks and usually requiring 220V wiring, and cost $500-1000.
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Well you have to consider how much you'll be using it. If on a daily basis, then yeah I'm sure those oil-lube'd ones would be much better. But for me, who rarely uses it more than once, maybe twice, per week (filling tires and blowing water off after washing the car, and the occasional automotive work), this one works great. I love having the rubber hose on the reel, also. It' so convenient. My dad's air hose is a stiff PVC one, not on a reel, and it's a PITA to deal with, especially when it's cold outside.

It is definitely loud when the compressor is running, though. Luckily for me it doesn't have to run very often.

dwolsten

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well you have to consider how much you'll be using it. If on a daily basis, then yeah I'm sure those oil-lube'd ones would be much better. But for me, who rarely uses it more than once, maybe twice, per week (filling tires and blowing water off after washing the car, and the occasional automotive work), this one works great. I love having the rubber hose on the reel, also. It' so convenient. My dad's air hose is a stiff PVC one, not on a reel, and it's a PITA to deal with, especially when it's cold outside.

It is definitely loud when the compressor is running, though. Luckily for me it doesn't have to run very often.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's about as much as I'd be using it. Does the compressor ever come on when you're not expecting it (like the middle of the night)? Or is it only when you're actually using air tools? Do the tanks leak at all when you're not using any air?

Sorry for hijacking the thread. I'm just really interested in getting my own air compressor and tools after having a couple of bad experiences with stuck crankshaft and axle bolts.