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Old 03-01-2010, 10:13 AM
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my 97 integra has a what i guess can be considered intermittent no start?
heres how it goes
i go to start it in the morning...nothing like if the battery was dead the starter just clicks..
ill have say 12.5-12.6v

i jump start or push start the car...turn it off...turn it back on WITH KEY..and it turns on fine for the rest of the day like nothing ever happened...

battery voltage with car on is usually 14.3-14.4v

0 ohms resistance in the ground and positive battery cables

battery was new but i thought it was draining over night..so i did a warranty on it with the new battery first time going to crank it nothing had to jump start it...then turned on fine every time after that until the next morning of course

ignition switch is good replaced it after my car was broken into they damaged the original one...checked all my wires under the dash for loose or broken wire connections

oh yes and i cleaned the hell out of the battery terminal and cables just for the heck of it stilll the same problem
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ohh yea and not to long ago either as well i did the starter thinking the original one was f-ing up cause it was just from time to time it wouldnt start at random times....then it switched to only in the mornings...
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There's a parasite somewhere. Something is killing your battery somewhere you don't look for it, ex. your trunk light staying on while your trunk is shut.
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Originally Posted by 96EJ6LX
There's a parasite somewhere. Something is killing your battery somewhere you don't look for it, ex. your trunk light staying on while your trunk is shut.
i dont have rear seats in..so at night i would be able to notice but i never turn the trunk, or interior lights other then the dash lights at night from the headlights being on... and the car did it even after getting a fresh battery in it is what got me the most confused since i thought it was something draining my battery as well every morning the battery reads 12.5-12.6v though
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oh yea and i also checked all the wires under the dash thinking that maybe the people who installed my alarm f-ed something up or left something loose even though it was months ago but everything was fine...and especially since the car starts from a push or jump start
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That's plenty of voltage. I'm a bit confused -- if you try to start in the afternoon will it start?
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Originally Posted by GagnarTheUnruly
That's plenty of voltage. I'm a bit confused -- if you try to start in the afternoon will it start?
very confusing...

it starts fine for the rest of the day after getting a jump or push start in the morning...once i park it for the night the next morning is when it wont start on its again
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It's has to be a parasite somewhere. If you put a new battery in and it runs out, but keeps going for the rest of the day, there is something. I couldn't tell you what it is or where it is. Take it to the Honda dealer. They'll fix it.
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Originally Posted by 96EJ6LX
It's has to be a parasite somewhere. If you put a new battery in and it runs out, but keeps going for the rest of the day, there is something. I couldn't tell you what it is or where it is. Take it to the Honda dealer. They'll fix it.
But I don't get why it didn't start with the new battery either until I got a Jump start? Know what I mean like if my car started fine with the new battery and the next day it didn't want to start I would defintely say there's somehing draining my battery over night
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The reason why your battery will start that your battery is going through a discharge cycle and the alternator is charging it back up. That's good for the battery but not so much the mornings. lol
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No way Id take it to the Honda dealer lolll I'm a tech I'm trying to apply there hahahaa... Being a Nissan tech isn't that exciting :/ lol. Nothing bit knock sensors all day hahahaa ( common problems )

what sucks about everything I try I don't find out till the next morning if it fixed the problem with my no start. For tonight I might just try disconnecting the battery and connecting it back in the A.M.
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Originally Posted by 96EJ6LX
The reason why your battery will start that your battery is going through a discharge cycle and the alternator is charging it back up. That's good for the battery but not so much the mornings. lol

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man my dc2 is nothing but problems I think Ima just start daily driving my DA hahaha never gives me problems
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I Also put a cleaner 10mm bolt where the ground is bolted to the chassis ... I mean it wasnt rusted but just a little dirty It gave 0 ohms resistance from the the battery post to the body near the bolt
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problem continues...
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hey if you want to get rid of the shell hit me up
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i had thoughts of stripping it down to get another shell to throw the parts on but i think im keeping it
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ok this morning went to start the car...and obvious happened...didnt start...but i came back out and held the key for the longer the usual time for the engine to turn over and start...and it started...........i wonder if the ignition switch needs a cleaning
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try ignition box first. see if you need a new one.
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you need a buddy for this test but you could test the starter solenoid the next time it doesn't start. if 12v is there then you either have an amperage problem or a failing starter. if 12v is not there than you trace from the ignition to the solenoid until you find the area causing trouble.
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Originally Posted by idrivesideways
you need a buddy for this test but you could test the starter solenoid the next time it doesn't start. if 12v is there then you either have an amperage problem or a failing starter. if 12v is not there than you trace from the ignition to the solenoid until you find the area causing trouble.
yea ive been wanting to try this one out cause what sucks is that since its usually in the A.M. everyones already at work and by the time somes ones back i need the jump start to get places... but ima just see if i can get my grandma to help me out and turn the key for this one hahahhahaa
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