JHD_DA

i just swapped a b18c1 into my 90 integ and its been running fine for 2 weeks so far with no problems til today. this morning i go to start my car and hear a slight grinding noise when i turn the key and the motor doesnt start. it sounds like the starter and flywheel arent touching enough or something. the starter turns but the car doesnt start. the last 2 weeks it started normal tho. so i took the LS starter out (using LS tranny) and put the gsr starter in and it does the same thing. anybody know wuts wrong?

xteg95

if it makes a slight grinding noise id check your timing, was it running okay before...like the idle and everything.

JHD_DA

yeah sounds like a slight grinding noise. its been running ok for 2 weeks and idles at around 800. i checked the timing when i got the motor running and set it where its supposed to be. maybe i should check it again? any other suggestions?

len

1. Check ground terminals
2. Check Battery
3. Check terminals on starter

There's a start.

JHD_DA

i checked those when i swapped starters and nuthing. i can push start the car tho. just cant crank it over.

len

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Remove your starter and check the teeth. Substitute with a known good starter and try again.

JHD_DA

the teeth looked normal as well as the flywheel. man im stumped. i might take it to a shop and have them look at it if i cant figure out wuts wrong .

len

If it is clicking and you checked to see you got power to the starter, then the starter is bad.

You can jump start a car with a bad starter. You're basically bypassing the starter system and using the momentum of the car and sudden clutch engagement to turn the engine over.

scrap1ngsr

does it run fine after it starts? Also does it idle werid after you give it a push start?

JHD_DA

i asked a shop and they said its a bad starter. so im gonna look for a new one. when i push started it it was idling normal around 800rpm. thanx for the help.

JHD_DA

well today i put a starter in from a b16 and still does the same thing. and i know this starter works cause i started the b16 up after i tried it on mine. so my starters r probably still good. only thing i can think of left is that the starter teeth r hitting the side of the flywheel and not the teeth on the flywheel. but i dont see how that can happen. i dont know wut else to do or try but take it to a shop and have them look at it.

91tegrals

youre right i dont see how that could happen how does youre flywheel look have you checked it out...

JHD_DA

yup flywheel looks normal. one of my boys said maybe the starter isnt getting enough power from the battery and cant extend out to turn the flywheel. but i tried jumping it and still doesnt work.

IN VTEC

iTrader: (3)

Spray some layout fluid or spray paint on the starter gear teeth. Turn it over and see where the paint is wearing off....if at all.

You can also try dabbing grease and installing the starter then removing it to see where and how much is contacting, but it'll probably get smeared on the install and removal, so it won't tell you conclusively.

I really can't think of anything, except that maybe the flywheel is from a non-B motor, but I also find that hard to believe b/c the different flywheels are probably different enough to prevent cross-installations. Maybe somebody else who's worked on D-, H-, and B- motors can elaborate or contradict me.

rev-speed

sounds more like bad starter wires
ur not getting enuff curren to start the car

use a vat 40 and test the current draw of the starter

JHD_DA

yeah maybe. tomorrow im gonna try hooking up a seperate wire from the battery to the starter and see if that works.

sleepinonacreeper

try this, turn your key until dash lights come on (position II). go out under your hood remove the small wire from your starter. then take a small piece of wire and jump current from the large wire, still attached to your starter, to where the small wire was attached to on the starter. if it works you have a problem in that circuit somewhere.

JHD_DA

well today i took the starter off the tranny and started it and the gear popped out and spun so theres nuthing wrong with the starter. theres also no marks on the starter teeth or flywheel teeth but when the starter is connected it makes a grinding sound. heres a thought. maybe the starter gear pops out and hits the flywheel teeth but theres not enough power to turn the flywheel so it grinds internally in the starter? i dont know this **** is pissing me off.

IN VTEC

iTrader: (3)

Try turning the motor over by hand using the crank pulley.

JHD_DA

the motor runs if i push start it. i just cant start it using the starter.

JHD_DA

well we found out y my car wont start today. the teeth on the flywheel came loose so when i start the car the teeth just spin around the flywheel. so this weekend i gotta rip the tranny off and change the flywheel ( lots of fun ). good thing i have a spare one laying around.