nc_mx_kid

I have a 95 Gsr that I'd like to set up to autocross to keep from getting speeding tickets on the highway(100 in a 65mph last fri. night). Anyways I'm a college student and it is my daily driver. SO I need a decent set up for the track that will still get me around town..
Some input please????
struts, shocks, coilovers, springs, sway bars, strut bars???????? I want to know the complete set up I should do w/ a good price tag..

THanks

dFreezy

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how is that going to 'help' you avoid getting tickets? if anything, it will make you more likely to get them since your car will be 'sportier'. anyways, i would say for autocross, start with suspension, its easy to do yourself and somewhat cheap. one of the first suspension mods to get is the itr rear sway bar. i would worry about springs/coilovers next, then shocks, and lastly strut bars.

au-gsr

teinss kit -reverse the springs on the kit 850.00
whitline 22mm adjustable rear swaybar with reinforcement kit 150.00
konig heliums wrapped in falken azenis 800.00
comptech ice box with filter in stock intake arm 220
comptech/dc /mugen/toda/spoon header 285 and up
stock itr(wil need weld work)comptech/rsr exmag/rsr exmag gt2/spoon sports n1/greddy sp2 or whatever hyou want - from 200 to 609
goodridge lines 95.00
hawk pads hps rear hp front 120.00

pm me if you want this setup it works rather well for me and i can get you all the parts at hte prices suggested above.

Aaron

nc_mx_kid

I know, I do/DID race motocross but i broke my leg,wrist & foot. I had a plate & 6 screws put in my leg so i currently cannot race s0o0 i bought the GSR so i have a nice sporty car to drive. Now I got yet another ticket(4 total)... Alot of my friends are into cars. But I am a racer so i figured i might set my car up & autocross it.

THanks

b18c1995

Keep your car stock until you can fully drive it, then start modding it when you find things about it that you dont like or want to change. The best way to get better times is seat time, not mods.

babes 99 GSR

I agree...i autocrossed the car stock the first time. Since then, i've gotten quite a bit and the car handles like a dream. I recommend the zeal b6s and a type r rear sway bar with beaks. I've had the zeals on for one year and i love them! The type r bar went on last weekend and the car stiffened up in the back a great deal, as i had to dial down the rear damper...i need to get used to it. I too have azenis and find them to be a great street/track tire...they do wear fast however. I had mine for one year and need new ones for my new wheels before i can put them on. I also recommend a braking upgrade...you don't have to spend lots either. I only upgraded to brembo blanks and axxis ultimates and i really like them with everything else on the car. Anyways...hope that helps.

- Staci

FormulaGSR

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Aaron
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What do you mean reverse the springs? Why? please explain

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

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He meant put the stiffer springs on the rear, which will give the car more of a rear bias (oversteer) in handling, instead of a tendency to understeer. I'm running 380 lb springs in front and 450 lb springs in the back.

But I would also say you should try autocrossing first with your car stock. You don't need to do anything really, you can roll up in whatever you drive everyday and go race. That's one of the cool things about autocross. You can learn about driving and about the dynamics of your car, and then you can start modifying things to improve the car's performance. Just remember that most of the performance comes from the carbon-based life form behind the wheel so the most important thing is you learning to control the car.

If you have any plans to join the SCCA and actually compete for points in autocross events, also consider the class your car is in. There are many stock classes that put similar cars in direct competition with each other. Then you have modified classes for different levels of modification. Keep in mind that different classes only allow certain modifications, and if you go beyond that, you might get bumped to a higher class in which you are much less competitive.

I would say go to some of your local events first, talk to people there, maybe go for a ride on a few runs. Check http://www.scca.org to find your local SCCA region and find out where and when events happen.

hotsuma23

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I cannot agree more. I like that.

au-gsr

when you have a front wheel drive car the whole idea in autocrossing is to push the car therough the turn as fast as possible. if yourun the heavier springs int he rear it allows the car to actual dig the front wheels into the turn and allow the rear wheels to push you throug it under heavy acceleration, one drawback, serious oversteer and not great for daily driving if you have uncontrolable dampers/shocks.

front wheel drive cars do best when youcan keep the wheels gripping up front. the lighter spring allows the suspension to eat the turn and allow the tire to not bounce out of line because you have a soft spring rate on em. The softer front end will allow a car witha differential that is front wheel drive to really shine(if the driver has the experience to push it the right way)

there is no setup that is a standard pbut your basic competitive seup for sts would be what i listed above. one thing though, the old ef civic Si with the d16 motor in them are the dominating car of the STS class, so if you are a good driver you better think about being an exceptional driver if you plan on competing in cnationals wiht an integra. otherwise you'll just get your *** handed to you by the old school civic Si's.

food for thought

DSR!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by au-gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you have a front wheel drive car the whole idea in autocrossing is to push the car therough the turn as fast as possible. if yourun the heavier springs int he rear it allows the car to actual dig the front wheels into the turn and allow the rear wheels to push you throug it under heavy acceleration, one drawback, serious oversteer and not great for daily driving if you have uncontrolable dampers/shocks.

front wheel drive cars do best when youcan keep the wheels gripping up front. the lighter spring allows the suspension to eat the turn and allow the tire to not bounce out of line because you have a soft spring rate on em. The softer front end will allow a car witha differential that is front wheel drive to really shine(if the driver has the experience to push it the right way)

there is no setup that is a standard pbut your basic competitive seup for sts would be what i listed above. one thing though, the old ef civic Si with the d16 motor in them are the dominating car of the STS class, so if you are a good driver you better think about being an exceptional driver if you plan on competing in cnationals wiht an integra. otherwise you'll just get your *** handed to you by the old school civic Si's.

food for thought
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um WRONG!! front wheel drive cars pull

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

but he is still correct on why to run stiffer springs in back.

au-gsr

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um WRONG!! front wheel drive cars pull</TD></TR></TABLE>

DUDE YOU NEED TO READ THE POST. WHERE DO I SAY THAT THE INTEGRA IS REAR WHEEL DRIVE? DO YOU HAVE A CARA SETUP FOR AUTO X? SO YOU EVEN KNOW THE CHARACTERISTICS OF UNCERSTEER AND OVERSTEER AND THE EFFECT THEY HAVE ON THE VEHICLE? EVIDENTLY NOT. I'LL LET MY POSTS SPEAK FOR ME, because i have been around quite longer then you in this honda game and a little 18-25 year old who thinks he knows everything has no place on this board, cause you'll get eaten alive SONNY!!

DSR!

from my understanding of auto xing, especially on front wheel drive cars, you really need the car to pull you through turns. Because once you loose grip of the back tires from oversteering on stiffer springs, the front ones would definately have to pull you from spinning out. And a yeah i guess i can call you my GRANDPA, one more thing, i guess you would know EVERYTHING, because by the way that you have said it, i don't. i know i don't know everything. Just because you devoted your life to cars, doesn't mean you will know everything. though you will know a lot, those things came from experience, and not through just knowing things because you, OLD MAN is just about at the end of your learning days. The old age is definately going to kick your ***.



Modified by DSR! at 12:50 PM 9/30/2004