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Old 12-04-2011, 08:54 PM
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92 da8 obdo2 b16a block b18c 96 pr3-4 head

motor's freshly installed, timings good and sounds the part!
problem is now im blowing a sh*t load of black smoke and overheating.
i found black smoke is generally excess fuel not getting burnt/too much fuel in cylinder. (correct me if i am wrong)
the head has had work, new valves seats etc, ported not polished =( acid dipped.
block standerd as.

things i have tryed: nothing. droped the tank(had old gas) and put more in. havnt turned it over yet.

what is causing it? and how can i fix it.

been searching all over for info and havnt found anything usefull
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do you have an after-market fuel pressure regulator, or is it stock? sounds like too much fuel delivery to me..

as for the over heating..since its a fresh motor im assuming you performed new water pump timing belt service..any signs of blown headgasket (milky looking oil? coolant smells sweet coming out the exhuast?)
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You sure It's not oil?
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what ecu are you using?
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i brought the motor as is. got told had a new headgasket an havnt had it running long enough to bring up the milky looking oil. its still gold. an nah deffintly not a sweet smell, iv'e expirienced that before =/
the block's still stock.
but you would think he would have of used a new if not near new water pump after goin threw the trouble of sending the head to the shop and spending the $$$
yup stock fpr
could i have hooked the vacume lines up wrong? would that efect it?
dirty or clogged injecters would retard the amount of fuel aswell ae?
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im sure its not oil. no sign of blue in there and its giving a gas smell from the engine bay.
as for ecu im not sure.
i havent changed it and i use to have a b16a2, so it would be the one that came with the conversion package many moons ago
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Well first check what ecu you are running
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will do now!
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37820 pr3-j01
400 - 102756
abf

thats what it says on my ecu
what sort is that?
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Pr3 ECUs are obd0 jdm b16s.
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this is why you never buy someone else's project
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Default Re: excess fuel. (black smoke)

this is why you never buy someone else's project

yea the motor came with a crx that i brought(half done project)

and as to jdmtyperdc2 cheers man!

so how can i fix this,where do i start?
when i was running my b16a2 with my ecu there was never any problems at all with fuel.
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c'mon ht any advice as how id go about diognosing this situation
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Default Re: excess fuel. (black smoke)

Buy an aftermarket fuel pressure regulater, a wideband O2, and a tuning device. As for the overheating, maybe are bubbles in the coolant lines due to just putting the motor in.
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would a 97 spec itr fuel regulator do the trick? can get fuel rail fpr an fuel line to filter for $50.

wide band 02 sensor? aftermarket aswell?
yea im not sure wat it is, been busy so havnt worked on the car for a few days.
gunna get the black smoke gone then worry about that..
just a thought, i was thinking since im burning so much fuel would that cause it to overheat?
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I would recommend an aftermarket FPR with a guage, unless you buy a fuel pressure tester, but that would just be a pain. And a wideband is aftermarket, stockers are narrowbands. Widebands are a necessity when tuning, it accurately reads your air/fuel ratio.

And running lean would cause overheating, too much fuel would not.
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Default Re: excess fuel. (black smoke)

hey so im going to buy a fpr jus doing research about it.

here it is
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=430500565

would someone be able to give me advice, info on aftermarket fpr
and would this fit my head.. have stock b16a fuel pump
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