Engine not starting after small amount of Seafoam.
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Engine not starting after small amount of Seafoam.
One of my friends told me to seafoam my engine. he said it would run way better and it`s healthy.
I Have a 1995 GSR B18C1 with 160k Miles. I Read reviews and everyone said it really helped.
So i let my engine run for about 5 minutes, then i took out the Vacuum Hose from the Firewall and slowly stuck it into the bottle of seafoam. i barely dipped it in and the engine started bogging and then it completely stalled. i look into the bottle and i saw that barely any seafoam got into the engine. i let it sit for about 10 minutes, and i saw a little white smoke when i tried to start the car, but now it won`t start at all. i waited 30 minutes and watched some TV, and came back and it still wouldn`t start. i checked my spark plugs and etc. everything was still good. Any Suggestions that i should do ? thanks
Modified by atmospheric SOUL at 9:06 PM 8/2/2008
I Have a 1995 GSR B18C1 with 160k Miles. I Read reviews and everyone said it really helped.
So i let my engine run for about 5 minutes, then i took out the Vacuum Hose from the Firewall and slowly stuck it into the bottle of seafoam. i barely dipped it in and the engine started bogging and then it completely stalled. i look into the bottle and i saw that barely any seafoam got into the engine. i let it sit for about 10 minutes, and i saw a little white smoke when i tried to start the car, but now it won`t start at all. i waited 30 minutes and watched some TV, and came back and it still wouldn`t start. i checked my spark plugs and etc. everything was still good. Any Suggestions that i should do ? thanks
Modified by atmospheric SOUL at 9:06 PM 8/2/2008
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
I was told before that if your car is high mileage and the carbon build up around the piston rings is what is holding you compression up..the sea foam could clean that out and mess up your compression..so thats why i aint sea foam my integra but i also have friends that sea foam there cars and its all good so im confused about the sea foam issue
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
yeah i had the same problem when i seafoamed my old civic. pull one of your plugs and see if it looks fouled or wet. if it is cool then just wait till tomorrow and try again. dont worry i dont think you killed your motor.
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The reason the engine died is becaust you put too much in too fast and it fell on it's face. Your supposed to add it slowly so you dont stall and add 1/3 of the can.
I usually utilize the pcv valve hose so it goes in throught the t-body and intake side.
Chances are you've possibly fouled the plugs, if that's the case you should not need new ones as it's a solvent and should dissolve its self but maybe you were not up to full operational temp and it's just sitting there waiting to be burnt off lol.
Sea Foam is an active cleaner thats injected into your motor via the brake booster or PCV valve and deep cleans all your valves/injectors/pistons etc. from carbon build up over the years. I have never personally had a problem using it, I had my stock B18b with 207k on it and was getting an averaged 33mpg in my DB and then added the 1/3 to the engine and the 2/3 to the fuel tank, did an oil change and used engine restore and the combo brought me up to 36mpg and much better response/accleration and cleaner running engine. I was also burning 1qt every 3k miles and that stopped as well . Great product when used by the directions on the back of it.
I usually utilize the pcv valve hose so it goes in throught the t-body and intake side.
Chances are you've possibly fouled the plugs, if that's the case you should not need new ones as it's a solvent and should dissolve its self but maybe you were not up to full operational temp and it's just sitting there waiting to be burnt off lol.
Sea Foam is an active cleaner thats injected into your motor via the brake booster or PCV valve and deep cleans all your valves/injectors/pistons etc. from carbon build up over the years. I have never personally had a problem using it, I had my stock B18b with 207k on it and was getting an averaged 33mpg in my DB and then added the 1/3 to the engine and the 2/3 to the fuel tank, did an oil change and used engine restore and the combo brought me up to 36mpg and much better response/accleration and cleaner running engine. I was also burning 1qt every 3k miles and that stopped as well . Great product when used by the directions on the back of it.
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Re: (one bad dx)
i didn`t put too much too fast. Barely ANY sucked in. and it just bogged and stalled. I'm getting new sparkplugs asap.
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
Any Other Suggestions about what might be wrong anyone ? I Highly doubt i Hydroplaned because barely any of the seafoam sucked in.
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
hydroplaned, what? That's when your tires ride up over surface water on the street.
I just ran 1/3 bottle of Seafoam in my wife's Corolla last weekend. Do not try to suck it straight out of the can, or the can will start to implode (if you're using the big brake booster vac hose). I had about 6 oz. in a measuring cup, and started to suck it in through the vac hose. I accidentally did too much at first, and the engine died. I started it back up, and this time sucked it down very slowly, also while holding the throttle open a bit to help keep it going.
But after doing all that, the damn engine still pings during acceleration.
I just ran 1/3 bottle of Seafoam in my wife's Corolla last weekend. Do not try to suck it straight out of the can, or the can will start to implode (if you're using the big brake booster vac hose). I had about 6 oz. in a measuring cup, and started to suck it in through the vac hose. I accidentally did too much at first, and the engine died. I started it back up, and this time sucked it down very slowly, also while holding the throttle open a bit to help keep it going.
But after doing all that, the damn engine still pings during acceleration.
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by atmospheric SOUL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any Other Suggestions about what might be wrong anyone ? I Highly doubt i Hydroplaned because barely any of the seafoam sucked in. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean hydrolock?
And that happens when you suck WATER into your motor, hense its called HYDROlock.
You mean hydrolock?
And that happens when you suck WATER into your motor, hense its called HYDROlock.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Local »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol..
i bought a can of seafoam a few months ago but still havent gotten around to using it. should i do an oil change after doing this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
I used 1/3 of the can at the Corolla's last oil change. I used another 1/3 this past weekend when I changed the oil, and then dumped the last 1/3 in with the fresh oil.
i bought a can of seafoam a few months ago but still havent gotten around to using it. should i do an oil change after doing this?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
I used 1/3 of the can at the Corolla's last oil change. I used another 1/3 this past weekend when I changed the oil, and then dumped the last 1/3 in with the fresh oil.
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Re: Engine not starting after small amount of Seafoam. (atmospheric SOUL)
when I tried using seafoam in my teg, the car wanted to bog out but you just have to keep revving the motor so it doesn't happen. Car felt a whole lot smoother after using it.....
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Re: Engine not starting after small amount of Seafoam. (iH8RICERZ)
Like some people said already... just keep cranking until it starts up again, unless you've got bigger problems to begin with that you're not telling us about your motor.
Don't stuff the vacuum hose to the bottom of the can of seafoam like you said. Instead, you have to let it sip the seafoam. And like iH8RICERZ stated, you gotta keep one hand on your throttle to keep your car from boggin out.
haha I'm still laughing from your HYDROPLANING
Don't stuff the vacuum hose to the bottom of the can of seafoam like you said. Instead, you have to let it sip the seafoam. And like iH8RICERZ stated, you gotta keep one hand on your throttle to keep your car from boggin out.
haha I'm still laughing from your HYDROPLANING
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hydroplaned, what? That's when your tires ride up over surface water on the street.
I just ran 1/3 bottle of Seafoam in my wife's Corolla last weekend. Do not try to suck it straight out of the can, or the can will start to implode (if you're using the big brake booster vac hose). I had about 6 oz. in a measuring cup, and started to suck it in through the vac hose. I accidentally did too much at first, and the engine died. I started it back up, and this time sucked it down very slowly, also while holding the throttle open a bit to help keep it going.
But after doing all that, the damn engine still pings during acceleration. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Corolla's are terrible for doing that. I worked as a tech at Toyota for 4 years and every time we performed a service on a Corolla that would happen. We used a different product, but it served the same purpose. I found that if I held the throttle open instead of allowing the engine to naturally ingest it, I would have better results. If not, I would drive the car in the higher rpms for a couple miles to burn it off.
Back on topic, to the OP, worse case scenario you can remove your plugs and plug wires from the engine. You can pull your ecu fuse from the engine fuse box and turn the motor over. I would do that until nothing shoots out. Put everything back together and try to start her then. HTH!
I just ran 1/3 bottle of Seafoam in my wife's Corolla last weekend. Do not try to suck it straight out of the can, or the can will start to implode (if you're using the big brake booster vac hose). I had about 6 oz. in a measuring cup, and started to suck it in through the vac hose. I accidentally did too much at first, and the engine died. I started it back up, and this time sucked it down very slowly, also while holding the throttle open a bit to help keep it going.
But after doing all that, the damn engine still pings during acceleration. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Corolla's are terrible for doing that. I worked as a tech at Toyota for 4 years and every time we performed a service on a Corolla that would happen. We used a different product, but it served the same purpose. I found that if I held the throttle open instead of allowing the engine to naturally ingest it, I would have better results. If not, I would drive the car in the higher rpms for a couple miles to burn it off.
Back on topic, to the OP, worse case scenario you can remove your plugs and plug wires from the engine. You can pull your ecu fuse from the engine fuse box and turn the motor over. I would do that until nothing shoots out. Put everything back together and try to start her then. HTH!
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haha, my bad for the Hydrolock spelling error.
i didn`t 'stuff' the hose in the bottle, it was still at the top of the bottle, not even an inch dipped in. & to the suggestion to turning the motor over ? i`m not experienced with taking motors out or any of that yet, i`m still slowly learning. Thanks though.
& I Think i`ll replace the sparkplugs, if it starts working again, i`ll try pressing the throttle when i do it. i didn`t think of that
i didn`t 'stuff' the hose in the bottle, it was still at the top of the bottle, not even an inch dipped in. & to the suggestion to turning the motor over ? i`m not experienced with taking motors out or any of that yet, i`m still slowly learning. Thanks though.
& I Think i`ll replace the sparkplugs, if it starts working again, i`ll try pressing the throttle when i do it. i didn`t think of that
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Re: (atmospheric SOUL)
If you're using the brake booster hose, which is about the same size as the can opening, then it's hard for air to enter the can around the hose, which makes the can start to implode.
You really should pour some out of the can into a cup or other type of container. That way it will be MUCH easier to control how fast or slowly the tube sucks up the liquid.
You really should pour some out of the can into a cup or other type of container. That way it will be MUCH easier to control how fast or slowly the tube sucks up the liquid.
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Yeah I would suggest to keep trying to start your car. My car took a few tries until it fired up when I first used Sea Foam through the brake booster. But when I cleaned my throttle body with the throttle body cleaner, my car took about 8-10 times until the engine started up. I was panicking when that happened to me. So I can imagine how you feel man.
If all else fails, check for spark, fuel, and compression. Keep in mind you can still get spark even if the ignition coil is out. That's what happened to me when I overlooked the ignition coil in the distributor. I ended up getting the car towed to a shop..DOh!! This happened when I failed to disconnect the two distributor connectors when performing a compression test.
I know this is a shot in the dark but, when was the last time your timing belt was changed? You can check by attempting to start the motor with the oil cap off and observing if your valvetrain is moving.
Lastly, that is a possibility that you hydroplaned nah j/k, hydrolocked your motor. I have came across Sea Foam threads in the past how people hydrolocked their motors when using Sea Foam because of the sudden "flood" that occurs inside due to the rapid rate of "ingestion".
I don't know what else to say but keep us updated man.
Goodluck!
If all else fails, check for spark, fuel, and compression. Keep in mind you can still get spark even if the ignition coil is out. That's what happened to me when I overlooked the ignition coil in the distributor. I ended up getting the car towed to a shop..DOh!! This happened when I failed to disconnect the two distributor connectors when performing a compression test.
I know this is a shot in the dark but, when was the last time your timing belt was changed? You can check by attempting to start the motor with the oil cap off and observing if your valvetrain is moving.
Lastly, that is a possibility that you hydroplaned nah j/k, hydrolocked your motor. I have came across Sea Foam threads in the past how people hydrolocked their motors when using Sea Foam because of the sudden "flood" that occurs inside due to the rapid rate of "ingestion".
I don't know what else to say but keep us updated man.
Goodluck!
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Re: Engine not starting after small amount of Seafoam. (atmospheric SOUL)
Nahh you didn't hurt anything, put fresh plugs in it and start it up, although I did seafoam a B16 once for my cousin and it did the same thing, shut off and wouldn't start. Ended up putting a coil in it I dont know if it was coincidence or not... maybe all that seafoam causes the plugs to increase voltage to fire and if you have a weak coil it lets go...
Anyway, great stuff and cleans like hell, I use almost a whole can on a high mileage motor with great results.
Anyway, great stuff and cleans like hell, I use almost a whole can on a high mileage motor with great results.
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Just tip the can in there to let the vaccum sip in the Seafoam. I just did it 2 minutes ago and didnt have a problem. Used about half a can between the vaccum and the crankcase. Nothing really happened but oh well.