Ball joint types
10-10-2005, 02:06 PM
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Ball joint types
Here's the link http://webepc.wrencheadpro.com...eauto
As you can see there is 3 different companies that make ball joints for my application. First question is OEM not one of these right? Also is the AC Delco ok or are they garbage. I can't believe it's like 35 bucks for just one, that's an arm and a leg for two. If they are all good then I'd rather buy the cheaper one.
I know people's going to say you get what you pay for but in some cases it might not be. Anyone's got experiences with any of these brands.
Also if the energy suspension kit, does it include the lower ball joint, I think of it because chances are I need to replace the rear control arm bushings too so maybe if it is then it's a better deal to get the energy suspension kit.
Modified by MNsnowdaboy at 5:15 AM 10/12/2005
As you can see there is 3 different companies that make ball joints for my application. First question is OEM not one of these right? Also is the AC Delco ok or are they garbage. I can't believe it's like 35 bucks for just one, that's an arm and a leg for two. If they are all good then I'd rather buy the cheaper one.
I know people's going to say you get what you pay for but in some cases it might not be. Anyone's got experiences with any of these brands.
Also if the energy suspension kit, does it include the lower ball joint, I think of it because chances are I need to replace the rear control arm bushings too so maybe if it is then it's a better deal to get the energy suspension kit.
Modified by MNsnowdaboy at 5:15 AM 10/12/2005
10-10-2005, 07:15 PM
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10-11-2005, 07:08 PM
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First off that page u link shows nothing and I don't feeling like searching through it...however I just used the ones from ebay and it's workng perfectly fine (i think like $35 for 2 shipped). Energy suspension only comes with a bushing/rubber cap for the ball joint and not the actual joint itself.
My theory is buy what you can afford or willing to pay. Seems to me you are not willing to pay $35 each.
My theory is buy what you can afford or willing to pay. Seems to me you are not willing to pay $35 each.
10-11-2005, 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricebucket »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off that page u link shows nothing and I don't feeling like searching through it...however I just used the ones from ebay and it's workng perfectly fine (i think like $35 for 2 shipped). Energy suspension only comes with a bushing/rubber cap for the ball joint and not the actual joint itself.
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Dam sorry seems like the link doen't work but here's the listing
Quantity Manufacturer Part Number Description Your Price Details
BALL JOINT, LOWER
MOOG K9802 [Ball Joint] 2 Per Veh, Frt Susp; Lower 35.77
TRW 104216 [Lower Ball Joint] Frt Susp; Lower; 2 Req. 33.30
AC DELCO 45D2196 [Ball Joint Front Lower] Front Susp 22.68
My theory is buy what you can afford or willing to pay. Seems to me you are not willing to pay $35 each.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Dam sorry seems like the link doen't work but here's the listing
Quantity Manufacturer Part Number Description Your Price Details
BALL JOINT, LOWER
MOOG K9802 [Ball Joint] 2 Per Veh, Frt Susp; Lower 35.77
TRW 104216 [Lower Ball Joint] Frt Susp; Lower; 2 Req. 33.30
AC DELCO 45D2196 [Ball Joint Front Lower] Front Susp 22.68
10-11-2005, 08:52 PM
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Re: (MNsnowdaboy)
From what I know AC Delco is GM's division and the belts I got from them seems pretty good quality. I heard about GM's problem in engine but never on suspension parts. TRW is also a big parts OEM but they are more of an asian aftermarket than OEM. I would say TRW and AC Delco should be pretty close in quality (but double check with pics from both).
I haven't heard of MOOG, but it maybe just me.
I haven't heard of MOOG, but it maybe just me.
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10-13-2005, 09:14 PM
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10-13-2005, 09:21 PM
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found another place that sells ball joints, dam they are extrememly cheap compared to other and OEM
Are they any good???? dam just $12.62 for one.
http://www.masterautoparts.com...22626
Are they any good???? dam just $12.62 for one.
http://www.masterautoparts.com...22626
10-18-2005, 03:29 PM
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wow...only 12.62??? thats really cheap. might as well buy two huh?? have you already decided which ones you're going to buy yet?? i am in the market for a ball joints as well. let me know which ones you choose..thanks
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10-18-2005, 06:14 PM
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Hey thanks for keeping my post up haha....lol.
Anyways I hate being the guenie pig all the time, but I will buy those cheap suckers and tell you how they do, probably get them next week, and I'm getting both.
Anyways I hate being the guenie pig all the time, but I will buy those cheap suckers and tell you how they do, probably get them next week, and I'm getting both.
10-19-2005, 12:02 PM
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yeah i know how it is...i think im gonna go ahead and get both too...i guess the hardest part will be putting the joints back in the hub. hopefully they work out for us both!!! good luck 
..i'll let you know how mine are when i get them
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..i'll let you know how mine are when i get them-Marcus
10-19-2005, 01:00 PM
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I used to work in a shop where I installed quite a bit of Moog parts in many different cars. As far as build quality goes, every Moog part I installed looked pretty decent. I'd say they're a close second to OEM.
10-20-2005, 07:26 PM
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well i ordered my ball joints yesterday and they came today!!! they look pretty damn good to me. the only thing that i did notice is that the threaded part doesn't pivot like the oem one does..but that shouldn't be a problem. i already took my stock ones out and am gonna have some guy at my bro's job (ford dealership) press them in for me. ill let you guys know how it goes...oh i'll take some pics too!!!
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10-21-2005, 08:12 AM
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Dam you ordered them yesterday and got them today!!!
Man I gotta order mine too if they come that fast, you didn't express the parts did you.
Hey how did you take them out, did you need to take the whole assembly out to press the ball joints in also. Good think My dad has a press machine at his garage.
let me know bro.
Man I gotta order mine too if they come that fast, you didn't express the parts did you.
Hey how did you take them out, did you need to take the whole assembly out to press the ball joints in also. Good think My dad has a press machine at his garage.
let me know bro.
10-23-2005, 07:39 PM
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i just did the regular shipping..but that place is in LA somwhere so it shouldn't take long anyway..
to take them out i just removed the whole hub assembly and layed it down on the ground and knocked the ball joint out with a hammer. you just have to be careful not not hit the brake dust shield or you will bend it out of shape.
as for pressing the joints in...i was going to do them myself w/ one of those autozone tools...but i thought that buying lunch for one of the techs at the ford service dept. (where my bro works) and having him press them in for me was easier.
as for the joints...they seem like they work..no complaints...but we'll see how long they last. oh yeah..in my previous post....the joints do move...its just since they're BRAND NEW they were hard to move..lol..oh well
to take them out i just removed the whole hub assembly and layed it down on the ground and knocked the ball joint out with a hammer. you just have to be careful not not hit the brake dust shield or you will bend it out of shape.
as for pressing the joints in...i was going to do them myself w/ one of those autozone tools...but i thought that buying lunch for one of the techs at the ford service dept. (where my bro works) and having him press them in for me was easier.
as for the joints...they seem like they work..no complaints...but we'll see how long they last. oh yeah..in my previous post....the joints do move...its just since they're BRAND NEW they were hard to move..lol..oh well
10-23-2005, 07:43 PM
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Ok so I ordered my last friday, might get them around weds. or thurs.
I was trying to avoid taking the whole hub assembly out because I've never done that but if it make life easier then I will. It's not hard is it?
Yeah luckly my dads got a machine press in his garage so I'll be using that.
I was trying to avoid taking the whole hub assembly out because I've never done that but if it make life easier then I will. It's not hard is it?
Yeah luckly my dads got a machine press in his garage so I'll be using that.
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thats cool..im sure that you'll get them sooner than you think
as for the hub assembly...its actually not that dificult. after you take your brake caliper off its pretty much three nuts..one for the upper arm...steering rod..and the lower ball joint. the only real pain is when these parts dont want to come off easily (usually they dont..and u have to use a hammer).
as for the hub assembly...its actually not that dificult. after you take your brake caliper off its pretty much three nuts..one for the upper arm...steering rod..and the lower ball joint. the only real pain is when these parts dont want to come off easily (usually they dont..and u have to use a hammer).
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