lucas569

fast94gsr<---- I DID READ on another forum that jeff from atomic is relocating to texas to work with larry. i'll find the thread.... and just for the record i dont "hate" larry, i think hes pretty smart actually and i would love to use his parts in m car. i wasted an entire month trying to get him to do a block for me pistons/rods/crank/sleeves the whle nine yards.anyhow i had bensons do the block for us and all is great...i wont do business with him cause hes rude,i'm sure it's no sweat off his nuts.

Arturbo

Well I have nothing to say about this but only that Larry lives 10min away from me. I could go on and on about him but I hate typing so I'll pass.

art

integra2000

All i have to say is that any doubters, go visit and ask for a ride in the civic, then you will be a belivier!!! HE KNOWS HIS ****!!!!

Tony the Tiger

Hey kilowatt, care to give us an example? So what was the situation when you and your friends reversed Larry's tips and it worked "OK"? Your vague examples of how Larry " almost ruined" you and your friends' motor show nothing except for your own personal bias towards ENDYN.

ENDYN helped me with a lot of problems. I don't know what the ENDYN haters have eaten lately, but they got sh*t into their brains... Well, at least there is a good side for having ENDYN haters though -- There will be lesser ENDYN parts on people's cars (lesser threat), and Larry will have lesser emails...then he will have more time to help me out with my problems

Tanner

No doubt... Have you guys seen Tony the Tiger's teg video. The car is sick and then go have a look at his mods list and look at what you see ENDYN ENDYN ENDYN. Also who else is doin anything to make the only SC for the teg perform to its peak... NO ONE that I know of.......

kilowatt

It says on the CubSi board that endyn's using Holley carbertors on hondas now! That should tell you something isn't right. Like I said. They don't know what theyre doing.

woodog

A tuner that builds a fast car and keeps all of his screts, is afraid of the competition.

Larry, who builds fast cars and tells everyone his screts, is not. Because he knows no one can duplicate what he's capable of.

Just because someone deals strictly with B-series motors(your motor), does not mean they're the master B-series motor minds. This is a foolish assumption. Also, who strictly deals with just the B-series motors anyway in U.S.? Skunk2?

It's a free country. Do whatever floats your boat.

Tony the Tiger

So when did "ClubSi" message forums became a good source of information? I thought it was your friends???

I hope you do know that carbs have benefits over fuel injection in drag racing...

kilowatt

I have lots of highly experienced friends who post there.

Rivercityransom

Now I'm sorry , but I can't hate on this guy. He knows his sh*t. Just go and read about him. Talk to people who have his work in they're cars. See what he's done. There is people on tuners nutts all the time. Besides see what happens when he puts those carbs on. And as alot of people think, THERE ARE NO AUTOMOTIVE SECRETS!


[Modified by Rivercityransom, 12:50 AM 5/26/2001]

Rain_man

I'm sorry kilowatt, but the more you post, the more I think you just have some beef w/ endyn and don't have any real good reason to explain why. Most of your posts have gaping holes in them that just makes most of us think u are making it all up.

Endyn stuff is reasonably priced and works extremely well and also endyn is aimed at gear heads. Someone who knows as much as him, really doesn't have the time to go around explaining the basics to everybody or somebody asking a question he answered two days ago w/o using the search function first.

green_GSR

If you keep making general statments like these, you're nothing but a poser who pretend to know your stuff. Where's the explanation of why using carbs on Honda's is such a bad idea? That, you've failed to address. And you also failed to answer the questions from the previous posts. So your words are pretty much junk if you ask me.

Some of the stuff you're arguing about had been already discussed on the ENDYN board, so do yourself a favour and do some research. I don't know what's going on, but it seems like the ones who don't know what they're doing is you and your crew.
Speaking of carbs, I've found some info on the ENDYN board on why carbs are better than fuel injection in some cases. Don't worry kilowatt, you don't have to thank me for doing the search for you.

Well prepared and sized carbs can actually provide better atomization than the current crop of injectors on the market.
The manifold plenum and runners need to be properly designed and the runner entries properly contoured to prevent the mixture from wetting out.
You guys might consider building what we've called "singing" manifolds where we place small transducers across the plenum in front of each runner ( a Honda would use 8). Run high frequency sound waves together and you'll be amazed at the atomization that can be achieved.
We began doing this in the mid seventies and it still works today (where it's legal).

Just because you feel that carbs are old school stuff doesn't mean they're junk. Looks like you're the one who don't know what you're talking about, here.


[Modified by green_GSR, 6:47 PM 5/25/2001]

F1 Honda

kilowatt =


[Modified by F1 Honda, 10:01 PM 5/25/2001]

vteg

I have not purchased an Endyn product. I found out about TOO a couple of years ago on the honda-performance mailing list(what happened to that). I have read about every page on his site. This guy knows his ****.

To those of you that think your honda engine is so much different from a domestic that knowledge does not apply should get off the pipe. True our engines may be dohc, have high redlines and high specific output. Anyone that is an enthusiast, or taken a few engineering/physics classes knows that when engines are designed you have to make compromises. The size of a car is a limiting factor. Small displacement 4 cylinder engines can be more optomized than a larger domestic v8. Didn't the integra almost end up with the preludes engine at one point, but the engine was to long and like 20 pounds to heavy? Probably would have made a much faster teg...

In a nutshell. There is no need to hate. Look at it as free information. You can take it or leave it. I would love one of his JRSC's with carbon fiber rotors though.

IntegD

Man, kilowatt..you are a complete idiot and each post you add digs you deeper into your hole of incompetence. I have talked to Larry personally a few times and he is a really educated guy. Not to mention nice(well most of the time). He ported my cylinder head and I love it. His parts are a great price and he DOES know his ****. He builds motors for NASCAR; and for the people that say that NASCAR and Honda motors have nothing in common, please dont even respond.

Kilowatt, I am with Tony the Tiger on this one. I would love to hear some SPECIFIC examples of what happened to your friends cars when supposively you "did the opposite" of what ENDYN said. hahahahahahah

I have no affiliation with ENDYN, and if you do not want to buy their products, then dont. The argument at hand should be "is ENDYN a good place to buy parts from" not, "does ENDYN know there ****?" You guys who know about ENDYN have already posted many details about ENDYN's history; Im gonna save my fingers the typing. I understand that this is a board with freedom etc., but, please dont post false information about Larry and ENDYN. They do know their ****.

Big Ed

People aren't riding his dick, they're showing respect for his product and the knowledge he provides to the "Honda Community". He might as well be "the god of honda", are you jealous? Bitter he didn't reply to an email perhaps? I just fail to see why someone would outright insult another man such as Larry Widmer, regardless of whether or not he is rude on occasion he is still extremely intelligent, something that should be respected. And if you'd like to challenge what Larry Widmer has to say please KNOW WHAT THE **** YOu ARE TALKING ABOUT!

Wow, Larry doesn't know anything? Haha. You must of thought long and hard about that one, but I'm sure you have plenty of time your head being up your *** and all.

Why did you even bother posting? Really. What the **** are you talking about?

Once again we appreciate you contributing your well researched findings on the quality Endyn's products and "combuistin marks".

Yeah that'll teach those **** heads at Endyn.


Edit: removed remark about SHO.


[Modified by Big Ed, 8:09 AM 5/26/2001]

IntegD

aww cmon now Ed...you cant tell me Tuan doesnt know his tech **** on Superhonda.org.......(not trying to start a war or anything)

SMSP

I have to second what IntegD said about Tuan. Tuan is the moderator over at the Integra board of SuperHonda and he really posts some detailed stuff. But, the thing I like about his posts is that he backs them up with a lot of concrete info and that takes a lot of time. Although Honda Tech, SuperHonda and ClubSi are all guilty of letting non technical stuff get on the boards, i.e. what color car do you have? or what kind of wheels do you have? I think all the boards should generate a BS section for this stuff and keep the main sections technical. It sure would be a lot easier looking through the posts.

I have a question, who gave this thread 5 stars anyway and what's the criteria?

Big Ed

Ok, ok, I wasn't being all too serious, I'll rephrase myself.

AcE

I don't post much on this message board, but I have an opinion about this topic. As far as Larry goes...when someone knows their ****, most people have a tendancy to give that person respect. Noone is kissing *** or sucking dick, but I think we all have a tendancy to respect people who know what they are talkin about when it comes to imports, or anything in general for that matter. In my opinion, Larry knows what he's doing and there is no reason for you to hate on him. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, but your opinion sucks. Oh, and I have emailed Endyn 2 times in the past 14 hours, and have gotten replies to both of em. He mustv'e known you were a hater when he ignored your emails...laterz.

LoneWolf

Okay, let's start off by my saying I don't know one thing about Endyn one way or the other.

That said, I think you're a flamer. You back nothing up with evidence, and the above is proof positive. "Gee, it says on somebody's board that they're doing stuff I think is stupid, therefore, they must be stupid." If I said on this board that I had a `Teg that did the quarter in under 9, would you assume it to be true, or would you ask for proof first?
You haven't posted one piece of evidence that showed hard facts about why they are the way you claim them to be, whose car they ruined and how. You're just stirring the pot and hoping that a few members' tempers will come to a boil.


[Modified by LnWolf, 1:45 PM 5/26/2001]

bigTom

my opinion= your opinion sucks!!!
haha... this post isnt even worth responding to anymore

lucas569

this post needs to get locked.

bigTom

i agree... can someone lock this thread

Gmedalion

Check this out
http://www.importreview.com/bb/Forum1/HTML/000557.html